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Old 07-26-2007, 05:29 PM
JrJordan JrJordan is offline
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Default 2/4 - 1.) Float 2.) Push 3.) ???? 4.) Profit?

Villain is a regular 2/4'er on PS. Running about 26/19 over this 100 hand session on multiple tables. We haven't battled much yet but on this table in particular my image is good after showing the goods vs. two fish in reraised pots earlier. I have been raising a lot preflop and BB may recognize this, but when he 3-bets my UTG raise I decide to just play some poker with some deeper stacks.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($249.60)
Button ($394)
SB ($440.10)
BB ($556.70)
Hero ($1067.80)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $48</font>, Hero calls $34.

Flop: ($98) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $77</font>, Hero calls $77.

Turn: ($252) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $175</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $942.8</font>

Effective call is $257 for BB. FWIW I'd likely play a turned flush the same way on this board but I doubt villain knows this.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:37 PM
cockandbull cockandbull is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 - 1.) Float 2.) Push 3.) ???? 4.) Profit?

i dont like this, i think its more likely you'll jam a draw/made on the flop. if you'd play an certain hand like this but other dude wont know it its pointless saying it.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 - 1.) Float 2.) Push 3.) ???? 4.) Profit?

I don`t think you have much FE here, i would just call and get it in on every river that hit you.

I will often enough push it myself at the table, but i think itī`s not optimal
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 - 1.) Float 2.) Push 3.) ???? 4.) Profit?

I don't like it. I don't think he bet/fold turn like ever. By the way, I'm more inclined to make a move on the flop instead b/c this is the place were you will putting in your value raises as well.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 - 1.) Float 2.) Push 3.) ???? 4.) Profit?

I disagree. Seems like these days everyone assumes a flop push on a board like this MUST be a draw therefore time to autocall. If I'm not repping the flush though, what am I repping on the turn that isn't a monster? AhKx and KQ are a pretty small part of my range here vs. set/KK/AA/flush.
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Old 07-26-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 - 1.) Float 2.) Push 3.) ???? 4.) Profit?

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I don't like it. I don't think he bet/fold turn like ever. By the way, I'm more inclined to make a move on the flop instead b/c this is the place were you will putting in your value raises as well.

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A flop raise here only gets called by hands that beat us. Lower PP's will usually give up on the turn anyway where I can bluff and the only hands that fold otherwise are AK/AQ which I'm chopping or beating already. I'd likely fold before I raise here on this semi-bluff. The float is still my favorite choice though.
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 - 1.) Float 2.) Push 3.) ???? 4.) Profit?

I disagree that he doesnt bet/fold this turn... when hero flats on flop.. villian prob doesnt think hero has much b/c he would be jammimg sets and overpairs and such.. when hero jams turn w/ very little FE he could rethink his flop analysis...however I still prefer to flat behind again and get it in ona good river
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Old 07-26-2007, 06:10 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 - 1.) Float 2.) Push 3.) ???? 4.) Profit?

I'd rather call this turn of jam the flop.
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