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Old 07-26-2007, 04:06 PM
Gustav Gustav is offline
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Default Re: TT flops set, opponent wakes up on turn

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They are usually calling or folding and your bet size doesn't matter to them if it's between 1/2 pot or full pot. So bet in the upper end of that spectrum. Alot of folks winrates would go up 1+bb/100 if they'd just follow that simple advice.

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You seem to be saying that I can pretty much make it standard to bet strong hands for full pot and cbet for half pot and expect to see approximately the same amount of calls. Are most micro villains really so oblivious not to pick up on this seemingly obvious tell? This is interesting.
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:08 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: TT flops set, opponent wakes up on turn

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They are usually calling or folding and your bet size doesn't matter to them if it's between 1/2 pot or full pot. So bet in the upper end of that spectrum. Alot of folks winrates would go up 1+bb/100 if they'd just follow that simple advice.

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You seem to be saying that I can pretty much make it standard to bet strong hands for full pot and cbet for half pot and expect to see approximately the same amount of calls. Are most micro villains really so oblivious not to pick up on this seemingly obvious tell? This is interesting.

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No, I'm not saying that at all. Hero should CB the same whether he hits or misses. I'm just saying make it bigger.
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: TT flops set, opponent wakes up on turn

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They are usually calling or folding and your bet size doesn't matter to them if it's between 1/2 pot or full pot. So bet in the upper end of that spectrum. Alot of folks winrates would go up 1+bb/100 if they'd just follow that simple advice.

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You seem to be saying that I can pretty much make it standard to bet strong hands for full pot and cbet for half pot and expect to see approximately the same amount of calls. Are most micro villains really so oblivious not to pick up on this seemingly obvious tell? This is interesting.

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No, I'm not saying that at all. Hero should CB the same whether he hits or misses. I'm just saying make it bigger.

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You say bet size doesn't matter to them. And we'll be bluffing with air more often than we're value betting. Seems like we should bet 1/2 pot every time instead then, if they fold the same range. What am I missing here?
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: TT flops set, opponent wakes up on turn

Easy Push.
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:14 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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Default Re: TT flops set, opponent wakes up on turn

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They are usually calling or folding and your bet size doesn't matter to them if it's between 1/2 pot or full pot. So bet in the upper end of that spectrum. Alot of folks winrates would go up 1+bb/100 if they'd just follow that simple advice.

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You seem to be saying that I can pretty much make it standard to bet strong hands for full pot and cbet for half pot and expect to see approximately the same amount of calls. Are most micro villains really so oblivious not to pick up on this seemingly obvious tell? This is interesting.

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No, I'm not saying that at all. Hero should CB the same whether he hits or misses. I'm just saying make it bigger.

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You say bet size doesn't matter to them. And we'll be bluffing with air more often than we're value betting. Seems like we should bet 1/2 pot every time instead then, if they fold the same range. What am I missing here?

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No, because like you said they will pick up that tell IMO.
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:26 PM
cowboy billy cowboy billy is offline
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Default Re: TT flops set, opponent wakes up on turn

betting a little more close to potsize on flop DOES convey more strength IMO

I never bet full pot (on any street, unless it's an ai situation), but always around the 80-90% number on the flop, unless for some stupid reason the pot is really tiny (like in a blind battle situation) where I'll just full pot it

on turn and river I bet A LOT less close to pot, bc bets on these streets have enough strenght in them on their own

and bc I usually bet a lot, this saves me big mountains of monies
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