which is worse, turn or river?

[MonsterJ]

Well, the river is bad but it is set up because the turn raise is so small. 2Kish seems right.

[Ship Ship McGipp]

so close, i'm goiong to go with river

[catcher193]

the ocean, you rebought.

[fsuplayer]

zinggggg

[Diplomat]

Well the river is only bad because you bet so small on the turn. Pot would be what, 2200 if you call? So make it 2100 at least, that's 1500 more to him and prevents him from bluffing the river.

As played I think I fold the river but I'm not positive. I guess he could have QJss or KQss but that would be about it.

-Diplomat

[Orlando Salazar]

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25-50 on FTP

unknown raises to 175 UTG pretty quickly, I coldcall button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]Jo blinds fold

J 8 5 (2 spades)
He bets 350 on flop pretty quickly and I just call

Ax

He bets 600
I raise to 1500

He calls and shoves 3k into me on 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] river and I call

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That's tougher at second glance. Your hand is face up but against a reasonable range (45s+ AK, AQs and 33+) you're flipping coins, maybe slightly behind since holding A spades. Call really player dependant.

Also, turn raise makes me vomit.

[RiverHebrew2]

river because I don't think AK or AQ turns their hand into a bluff so wtf r u beating

[praios]

turn is bad because raise is too small

river is a fold i think

[rtc89]

What was the point of the turn bet, to confuse yourself on the river?

I can't call that river. How often does he get to the river with that action with a hand you are ahead of and that he wants to bet with?