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Old 07-25-2007, 07:48 PM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: Blind vs Blind against tricky villain

Against a more LAGish player I would 3-bet pf, but this particular TAG is pretty tight pf even from SB in unopened pot. Also I thoght that I had to use a more deceptive line to extract value from him. Notes on pf and flop taken, I'm more intrested in discussions about turn and river.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:54 PM
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Default Re: Blind vs Blind against tricky villain

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Against a more LAGish player I would 3-bet pf, but this particular TAG is pretty tight pf even from SB in unopened pot. Also I thoght that I had to use a more deceptive line to extract value from him.

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It's BvB, deception is somewhat overrated.

If he's a good TAG, then 3-betting him with A9o in position is nearly a must.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:57 PM
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Against a more LAGish player I would 3-bet pf, but this particular TAG is pretty tight pf even from SB in unopened pot. Also I thoght that I had to use a more deceptive line to extract value from him.

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It's BvB, deception is somewhat overrated.

If he's a good TAG, then 3-betting him with A9o in position is nearly a must.

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Could you explain why?
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:00 PM
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Against a more LAGish player I would 3-bet pf, but this particular TAG is pretty tight pf even from SB in unopened pot. Also I thoght that I had to use a more deceptive line to extract value from him.

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It's BvB, deception is somewhat overrated.

If he's a good TAG, then 3-betting him with A9o in position is nearly a must.

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Could you explain why?

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if you're afraid that he'll outplay you postflop then get your money in preflop when you know it is going in good
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Old 07-25-2007, 08:15 PM
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Against a more LAGish player I would 3-bet pf, but this particular TAG is pretty tight pf even from SB in unopened pot. Also I thoght that I had to use a more deceptive line to extract value from him.

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It's BvB, deception is somewhat overrated.

If he's a good TAG, then 3-betting him with A9o in position is nearly a must.

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Could you explain why?

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re: deception, it's BvB so hand values are way discounted. You don't have to underrepresent you hand to get action.

Re: 3-betting, two good reasons have already been stated - you want money going in with an EQ edge preflop, and balance so that he doesn't shut down when you 3-ball you're actual big hands.

I'd also add that A9o isn't really an 'implied odds' type hand where you can catch make someone go off for a bunch of bets while second best postflop (unless you get really lucky and flop a9x and he has AK...), so there's no reason to keep the pot small to preserve implied odds.
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Old 07-25-2007, 07:58 PM
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Against a more LAGish player I would 3-bet pf, but this particular TAG is pretty tight pf even from SB in unopened pot. Also I thoght that I had to use a more deceptive line to extract value from him. Notes on pf and flop taken, I'm more intrested in discussions about turn and river.

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Your deception is this spot comes from raising a wide enough range that he has trouble putting you on a hand postflop based on your action preflop.
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