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Re: Hand vs. Rizen $109 rebuy
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[ QUOTE ] Shove the turn? [/ QUOTE ] This is absolutely the correct answer... let's suppose you misclick and call on the turn. What's your river play? [/ QUOTE ] Do you think he calls with anything we beat if you push the turn? |
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Do you think he calls with anything we beat if you push the turn? [/ QUOTE ] That's why the play is good. If we shove the turn, he has to have the nut flush to call. Very, very, very, mostly he won't have it and we win a nice pot. For the very,very,very,very few times he does have it, we have boat outs. Regards, Woodguy |
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Re: Hand vs. Rizen $109 rebuy
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[ QUOTE ] Do you think he calls with anything we beat if you push the turn? [/ QUOTE ] That's why the play is good. If we shove the turn, he has to have the nut flush to call. Very, very, very, mostly he won't have it and we win a nice pot. For the very,very,very,very few times he does have it, we have boat outs. Regards, Woodguy [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. Pushing the turn is mandatory. |
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Re: Hand vs. Rizen $109 rebuy
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[ QUOTE ] Do you think he calls with anything we beat if you push the turn? [/ QUOTE ] That's why the play is good. If we shove the turn, he has to have the nut flush to call. Very, very, very, mostly he won't have it and we win a nice pot. For the very,very,very,very few times he does have it, we have boat outs. Regards, Woodguy [/ QUOTE ] Would Rizen need the nut flush to call? Would he call with *ANY* flush there? Hero probably cbets most of the time with the A/K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] on the flop, doesn't he? |
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Would Rizen need the nut flush to call? Would he call with *ANY* flush there? Hero probably cbets most of the time with the A/K on the flop, doesn't he? [/ QUOTE ] That's probably right, so you can remove one of the "very's" from each of my statements. Regards, Woodguy |
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Re: Hand vs. Rizen $109 rebuy
By the way, the other thing that makes the turn push mandatory is stack size. You played this hand as though the stack sizes were reversed. Make Rizen decide whether to risk his tourney life on a weak flush or worse knowing you might hold the nuts. Even if you lose, you are still in fine shape.
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Re: Hand vs. Rizen $109 rebuy
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[ QUOTE ] Do you think he calls with anything we beat if you push the turn? [/ QUOTE ] That's why the play is good. If we shove the turn, he has to have the nut flush to call. Very, very, very, mostly he won't have it and we win a nice pot. For the very,very,very,very few times he does have it, we have boat outs. Regards, Woodguy [/ QUOTE ] From the BB's perspective does hero ever fail to cbet this flop with the A or K of diamonds? I would think no, meaning I(BB) would call a turn push by hero with more than just the nut flush. Incorrect reasoning? |
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Re: Hand vs. Rizen $109 rebuy
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Do you think he calls with anything we beat if you push the turn? [/ QUOTE ] That's why the play is good. If we shove the turn, he has to have the nut flush to call. Very, very, very, mostly he won't have it and we win a nice pot. For the very,very,very,very few times he does have it, we have boat outs. Regards, Woodguy [/ QUOTE ] From the BB's perspective does hero ever fail to cbet this flop with the A or K of diamonds? I would think no, meaning I(BB) would call a turn push by hero with more than just the nut flush. Incorrect reasoning? [/ QUOTE ] what if he flopped the nut flush himself? |
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Re: Hand vs. Rizen $109 rebuy
I don't think he makes that turn bet with the nut flush, and even if he does by some small chance have the nut flush, you spike a boat or quads on the river. Poker is easy.
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Re: Hand vs. Rizen $109 rebuy
I thought 'shove the turn' .3 seconds after reading this, but I've played with Rizen a few times before [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] Calling the river is fairly bad...not as bad as vs. almost any other player, but bad.
PS: Congrats man, I'm jealous as hell. |
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