Raising limpers with nothing

[tripled83]

no doubt, im not saying it cant work, or you even wont hit, but you have the same chance to hit as anyone else and you have advantage on anybody that wont hit, but if you did it 100 times prolly 10 times you'll get raised pf, another 25 you would get raised after the c-bet, were 40 times you would win and 25 times you would lose in a show down. at 50nl, in that scenario you would win $150 and lose $800. not much reward for that risk, just to prove you can outplay people.

[jonyy6788]

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no doubt, im not saying it cant work, or you even wont hit, but you have the same chance to hit as anyone else and you have advantage on anybody that wont hit, but if you did it 100 times prolly 10 times you'll get raised pf, another 25 you would get raised after the c-bet, were 40 times you would win and 25 times you would lose in a show down. at 50nl, in that scenario you would win $150 and lose $800. not much reward for that risk, just to prove you can outplay people.

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may I ask where the F u came up with those #'s?

[jessyj07]

ya'll protesting are also not taking into account the times you raise with your monster hands and they're concealed because you raise so damn much with "nothing". There is alot more than just the hand your playing atm.

[tripled83]

the numbers are from what i wrote earlier about how much it would take to bet and make a c-bet at a 9 player table in a 50nl game. you dont honestly think with 3.75 in the pot your gonna bet $3 and have more than 2 folders, right?

[jonyy6788]

Over 34k hands on FT (where I admit I didn't play my best poker)

I had 4510 hands where I was faced with 1 limper, I made $990.10 for 22ptbb/100

I had 1978 hands where faced with 2+ limpers, +118.70 for 6ptbb/100

These obv. include hands like AA/KK/etc, but that's part of the game like jessyj07 mentioned. We raise less valuable hands to get our big hands paid off.

[jonyy6788]

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the numbers are from what i wrote earlier about how much it would take to bet and make a c-bet at a 9 player table in a 50nl game. you dont honestly think with 3.75 in the pot your gonna bet $3 and have more than 2 folders, right?

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LOLFULLRING

and at NL50 if there were 2 limpers that called my raise, the pot would be $9.75

[jonyy6788]

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no i understand what your saying, but what im saying is if your on the button and you have 6 limpers in front of you on a 50nl there's 3.75 on the table your going to have to bet at least $5, and even if your down to one limper that's $13.75 your not going to be able to c-bet $5 you got to make it at least $10 on the hope that all 7 people fold and 1 guy totally misses his hand, at this point if he didnt miss his hand (or just doesnt care, jj, tt)you lost $15 trying to win the original $3.75, to much risk not enough reward.

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This is for 6-max (the forum below us is devoted entirely to full ring games). So we'd have 3 limpers to us at the most.

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[tripled83]

the question i was answering was everyone limping and us having nothing, only that situation.

[jonyy6788]

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the question i was answering was everyone limping and us having nothing, only that situation.

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well like we said, there would only ever be 3 limpers (and this happens like 1 in 1000), so basically this never happens

and yes, I would never isolate 3 people with trash

[tripled83]

if you read it right i said preflop 3.75, one caller on a 5 dollar raise would make the pot 13.75, trying reading it right, also i now realize it was 6max, which changes everything but i was talking to you about a full table that you thought you knew you was talking about.