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Old 07-24-2007, 09:25 PM
00Snitch 00Snitch is offline
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Default Re: 2nd AQo overcards

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goddamn boz


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Havn't you gone on holidays yet damnit! [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Why would you assume that?


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Well now I assume that you want me to explain why I previously assumed you were not advocating calling and therefore folding. This is all assuming 3-betting is out of the question of course.
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:38 PM
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For the record, if anyone was wondering...

Boz has already hinted (at least I think thats what he was hinting, its so hard to tell [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) why you shouldn't call this. You are getting 6:1. Given the action, you can't assume you are ahead. Getting 6:1, you need close to 8 outs to continue. Under the very best circumstances, you have 6.
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: 2nd AQo overcards

Also, you are out of position and you are not closing the action, so you may be forced to call another bet placing your effective odds at more like 5:1 than 6:1, meaning that you need over 8 outs to call.
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:42 PM
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You're not getting 6:1. You're getting 12:2, which is quite a bit different, and to top it off you're not closing the action. Pretty easy fold, even against two such aggressive opponents.
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Old 07-24-2007, 09:45 PM
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Yer, and what harv said. [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:32 PM
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goddamn boz can you ever just answer a post without saying some stupidass passive aggressive quasi-sarcastic thing?

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Sure. Go [censored] yourself. Howzat?
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:33 PM
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Default Re: 2nd AQo overcards

No one has yet mentioned all our BDSD possibilities!!!
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Old 07-24-2007, 10:40 PM
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Default Re: 2nd AQo overcards

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For the record, if anyone was wondering...

Boz has already hinted (at least I think thats what he was hinting, its so hard to tell [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]) why you shouldn't call this. You are getting 6:1. Given the action, you can't assume you are ahead. Getting 6:1, you need close to 8 outs to continue. Under the very best circumstances, you have 6.

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very nice detective work snitchee...
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: 2nd AQo overcards

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No one has yet mentioned all our BDSD possibilities!


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I am assuming this falls into the:
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stupidass passive aggressive quasi-sarcastic thing?


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category of responses.

Well this has been a fun thread...
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Old 07-24-2007, 11:56 PM
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Default Re: 2nd AQo overcards

Fold yo, how do you think people get an agression factor of >2 with a pfr of <5 and vpip of >25%? Hint, I don't think it is by bluff-raising flops.

Then again, these stats look like they have been collected over a very small sample to they might not be very reliable. In either case I don't think spiking an A or a Q would help you against a raise and a re-raise so this fold should be a no-brainer no?

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