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Full Ring adivce request
Ok so I'm a NL25-50 full ring player, I have read a few books and feel I'm stronger then most of my opponents, but there are a few things I'm not so sure about and could be leaks. About coldcalling mostly.
also I have a few examples, it could be that these have very clear answers lets say all players have 100 BB stacks tell me in both cases, the raiser being a nit, and a fairly loose raiser. so early position raiser raises 3x the BB, and gets called by a MP player, everyone else folds to you in the BB, should you call with Q9s? early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 33(what about 88) early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 67s (what about TJs) you raise 3x the BB 99 in early position, a player in late position reraises you 9x BB someone raises 3x bb, it gets folded to you in the BB with AJ (what about ATs?) someone raises 3x bb early position, it gets folded to you in LP with A4s (what about a one raise + one call to you) And also a question about the SB, do you complete the SB with Ax? what about hands like T4s/Q2s? I would really appreciate it if someone took some time to answer these questions with a short explanation, thankyou. |
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Ok so I'm a NL25-50 full ring player, I have read a few books and feel I'm stronger then most of my opponents, but there are a few things I'm not so sure about and could be leaks. About coldcalling mostly. also I have a few examples, it could be that these have very clear answers lets say all players have 100 BB stacks tell me in both cases, the raiser being a nit, and a fairly loose raiser. so early position raiser raises 3x the BB, and gets called by a MP player, everyone else folds to you in the BB, should you call with Q9s? Probably not early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 33(what about 88) Yes and yes early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 67s (what about TJs) some of the time. Depending on your postflop skill and the likely of being able to win a lot when you hit you raise 3x the BB 99 in early position, a player in late position reraises you 9x BB to 9bb in total? Id be inclined to call here most of the time for set value someone raises 3x bb, it gets folded to you in the BB with AJ (what about ATs?) Hmmm... either is fine in some instances. But i lean towards folding as you got a lot of reserve implied odds. someone raises 3x bb early position, it gets folded to you in LP with A4s(what about a one raise + one call to you) fold mostly And also a question about the SB, do you complete the SB with Ax? what about hands like T4s/Q2s? No most of the time. It depends on limpers and the likelyhood of a raise from the BB. I would really appreciate it if someone took some time to answer these questions with a short explanation, thankyou. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Ok so I'm a NL25-50 full ring player, I have read a few books and feel I'm stronger then most of my opponents, but there are a few things I'm not so sure about and could be leaks. About coldcalling mostly. also I have a few examples, it could be that these have very clear answers lets say all players have 100 BB stacks tell me in both cases, the raiser being a nit, and a fairly loose raiser. so early position raiser raises 3x the BB, and gets called by a MP player, everyone else folds to you in the BB, should you call with Q9s? NO NO early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 33(what about 88) YES YES YES YES assuming the 5/10 rule applies early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 67s (what about TJs) YES YES YES YES you raise 3x the BB 99 in early position, a player in late position reraises you 9x BB Use the 5/10 rule someone raises 3x bb, it gets folded to you in the BB with AJ (what about ATs?) Fold v early, reraise or check-donk bet v a stealer someone raises 3x bb early position, it gets folded to you in LP with A4s (what about a one raise + one call to you) Call Call And also a question about the SB, do you complete the SB with Ax? what about hands like T4s/Q2s? FOLD FOLD FOLD FOLD I would really appreciate it if someone took some time to answer these questions with a short explanation, thankyou. [/ QUOTE ] position matters a hell of alot pocket pairs are good |
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so early position raiser raises 3x the BB, and gets called by a MP player, everyone else folds to you in the BB, should you call with Q9s? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, virtually always. [ QUOTE ] early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 33(what about 88) [/ QUOTE ] Headsup? Given stack size, probably call and set mine. [ QUOTE ] early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 67s (what about TJs) [/ QUOTE ] Out of position, mostly fold. Drawing hands are better to play in position--so, same situation, but your on the button, I call (and sometimes r/r) with both. [ QUOTE ] you raise 3x the BB 99 in early position, a player in late position reraises you 9x BB [/ QUOTE ] Usually fold, read dependant. [ QUOTE ] someone raises 3x bb, it gets folded to you in the BB with AJ (what about ATs?) [/ QUOTE ] Meh, whatever. Sometimes fold, sometimes r/r, sometimes call. [ QUOTE ] someone raises 3x bb early position, it gets folded to you in LP with A4s (what about a one raise + one call to you) [/ QUOTE ] I like it with more than one opponent. With only one, I might call, hoping to drag the blinds along with me. You're only playing for the flush. [ QUOTE ] And also a question about the SB, do you complete the SB with Ax? what about hands like T4s/Q2s? [/ QUOTE ] Usually not. That said, I don't mind completing the SB in hopes of a flush board once in a while. My goal in the SB is to only play easy hands that will either obviously hit or obviously miss, hence avoiding domination. Warning: I'm much more LAG than TAG, and think that a lot of the folks who succeed very well at this level play way too tight for higher games. But that's just me. |
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Ok so I notice you disagree on some of the points, thats why I think it's important to know why you do what you do. I would like to hear more opinions, gonna check in tomorrow.
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I agree with MT2R for the most part, but I'm curious why you would fold Ax in the SB instead of pop it to 4x. I'm also fine with calling AJ or A10s vs. donks from any position and vs. good players in steal positions (obviously use variety of different lines on the flop, hit or miss).
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5/10 rule [/ QUOTE ] ??? Link? |
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Ok so I'm a NL25-50 full ring player, I have read a few books and feel I'm stronger then most of my opponents, but there are a few things I'm not so sure about and could be leaks. About coldcalling mostly. also I have a few examples, it could be that these have very clear answers lets say all players have 100 BB stacks tell me in both cases, the raiser being a nit, and a fairly loose raiser. so early position raiser raises 3x the BB, and gets called by a MP player, everyone else folds to you in the BB, should you call with Q9s? <font color="blue">Fold. Its a hard hand to play oop, if it was a 2x raise I'd call obv.</font> early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 33(what about 88) <font color="blue">I call any pair here for set value.</font> early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 67s (what about TJs) <font color="blue">I call a raise from a nit and fold to a loose. When you call with sc you are waiting win a huge pot when hit, a nit must have a good hand to open in ep, so you have great implied odds. A loose instead can be giving a shot with a fair good hand, then if you hit you will not win a big pot enough. If loose is also a calling station, I call.</font> you raise 3x the BB 99 in early position, a player in late position reraises you 9x BB <font color="blue">I call for set value.</font> someone raises 3x bb, it gets folded to you in the BB with AJ (what about ATs?) [ QUOTE ] <font color="blue">Fold v early, reraise or check-donk bet v a stealer</font> [/ QUOTE ] someone raises 3x bb early position, it gets folded to you in LP with A4s (what about a one raise + one call to you) <font color="blue">Fold (call)</font> And also a question about the SB, do you complete the SB with Ax? what about hands like T4s/Q2s? <font color="blue">Without limpers I raise 80% of my hands. With one limper I fold both. With 2+ limpers I complete.</font> I would really appreciate it if someone took some time to answer these questions with a short explanation, thankyou. [/ QUOTE ] Excuse me for eventual grammar errors. |
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Q: I've heard other posters mentioning the 5/10 rule. What is it? A: The 5/10 rule is an important no-limit concept that first appeared in Bob Ciaffone's excellent book, "PL & NL Poker." To quote directly from the book: "When contemplating calling a raise because your position is good, you have a clear call if the raise is less than 5% of your stack, and a clear fold if it is more than 10%. In between those numbers, use your judgement." It's a good rule for calling a preflop raise with a pocket pair in hopes of hitting a set. The driving force behind the concept is the implied odds in a given situation. If you get your set, but the opponent only has 5BBs after the initial raise, calling to hit the set in the first place is incorrect. [ QUOTE ] http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/...te_id/1#import |
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Ok so I'm a NL25-50 full ring player, I have read a few books and feel I'm stronger then most of my opponents, but there are a few things I'm not so sure about and could be leaks. About coldcalling mostly. also I have a few examples, it could be that these have very clear answers lets say all players have 100 BB stacks tell me in both cases, the raiser being a nit, and a fairly loose raiser. so early position raiser raises 3x the BB, and gets called by a MP player, everyone else folds to you in the BB, should you call with Q9s? No early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 33(what about 88) Yes and yes early position raiser raises 3x the BB, everyone folds to you in LP with 67s (what about TJs) totally player and table dependant. I will sometimes fold, sometimes call, and if conditions are just right I will re-raise you raise 3x the BB 99 in early position, a player in late position reraises you 9x BB call someone raises 3x bb, it gets folded to you in the BB with AJ (what about ATs?) Generally I fold. I'll call against a weak opponent someone raises 3x bb early position, it gets folded to you in LP with A4s(what about a one raise + one call to you) fold both And also a question about the SB, do you complete the SB with Ax? what about hands like T4s/Q2s? No I would really appreciate it if someone took some time to answer these questions with a short explanation, thankyou. [/ QUOTE ] Tight play tends to pay off at full ring. Position is key. Clearly there is room for individual play based on the varying responses you've got. Good luck. |
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