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Old 07-24-2007, 07:05 PM
jesse8888 jesse8888 is offline
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Default Responding to preflop re-raises

These both happened in $6.50 turbos on FTP:

Hand 1: Button had not been out of line.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero (t1260)
MP2 (t1855)
CO (t1685)
Button (t2410)
SB (t1335)
BB (t1990)
UTG (t1965)
UTG+1 (t1000)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t210</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t2410 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t2710


Hand 2: The hand immediately before this I had raised to 3.5 the bb to open from the SB. SB had seemed pretty aggressive.

Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t80 (8 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero (t1230)
SB (t2930)
BB (t1060)
UTG (t1805)
UTG+1 (t1590)
MP1 (t1965)
MP2 (t1210)
CO (t1710)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t280</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t2930 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t950 (All-In).

Flop: (t4240) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
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Turn: (t4240) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t4240) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t4240

Comments on these two hands? What's standard here?
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:11 PM
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Default Re: Responding to preflop re-raises

Hand 1 I make that laydown most of the time. PF is perfect I really don't want to race for all my chips here.

Hand 2 meh, If you really think the SB would make an out of line play with AT+ here i would call but mostly I am folding b/c you still have plenty of chips to play if you fold.
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:32 PM
jesse8888 jesse8888 is offline
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Default Re: Responding to preflop re-raises

Well...here's why i called hand 2:

I had pushed this guy around last hand. Perhaps he's being a little over aggro towards me. My stack and the BB's stacks were both small enough that any raise was basically an all in, so his HUGE raise isn't actually that big.

Next, I had to call a little under 1000 to see a pot of around 15. So I was getting 3:2 odds, which I felt was enough of an overlay to make the call, given that I'd have him dominated some percentage of the time.

Finally....I didn't think he'd push with Aces. If I were him and I had aces I'd call and c/r all-in dark.
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: Responding to preflop re-raises

I call both of these against just about everyone.
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:42 PM
KoreanBuffet KoreanBuffet is offline
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Default Re: Responding to preflop re-raises

Well like I was saying if you think he tilts off his chips light in hand two the call is fine. I've also called in both situations but lately I've been folding these a little b/c ive been running badly and b/c i want to see how I do not racing AK early.
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:09 PM
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Default Re: Responding to preflop re-raises

Hand 1 I prob call: the way he played it is almost never AA or KK, and is probably AQ or AJ often enough to make it a profitable call. If you had more chips then maybe you could fold, but not after already putting in 1/6 of your stack

Hand 2 I definitly call. His range is probably fairly wide and he may be bullying you or seing your raise as a steal.
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:16 PM
Heavens_Myst Heavens_Myst is offline
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Default Re: Responding to preflop re-raises

cant see how u fold hand 1, the worst ur gonna be is racing, the best is that you're up against AQ/KQs type crap, he MIGHT play JJ/QQ like that, but hes not pushing KK/AA

hand 2 i snap call
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:21 PM
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Default Re: Responding to preflop re-raises

I think both are easy calls.
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:47 PM
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Default Re: Responding to preflop re-raises

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I call both of these against just about everyone.

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Old 07-24-2007, 09:18 PM
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Default Re: Responding to preflop re-raises

I call both almost all the time.
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