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Old 07-24-2007, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

I think this almost always varies from player to player. Against a TAG you've been 3 betting a lot I want KJ of the four by a mile since we can pretty confidently get it in if we hit top pair (which will happen with KJ more than the others, plus our kicker is strong).

If I'm against a more solid player I think I'd rather have A2s, since most solid players don't call too many 3 bets with Ax our ace is usually live, and if we both flop an ace we can usually get away from the hand. With KJ it's tougher to respond to a raise from a solid player with little history when we hit top pair, so I'm not a big fan of having KJ in this spot against a solid player with little history, personally.

I'd prefer to have 88 against a weaker player. We can often check down our hand and don't have to worry about being bluffed later on, and we can also often bet/fold most flops and run little risk of being blown off the best hand.

57s I'd want least out of all these hands on almost every situation.

Overall KJ > A2s > 88 > 57s
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Old 07-24-2007, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

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Seeing how every good player who posted has a different opinion this thread is confusing the crap out of me.

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Well, every good player has a slightly different style, and image, and different 3bet %'s and all that... since a typical decent/aggressive opponent will play slighly differently depending on who it is doing the 3betting, the way that the hand will play out will be a bit different for just about every good player. Hence the type of hand that each good player would want to have here is going to vary.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

88>>>>KJ>75s and I'd shove A2s pre here often.
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:45 PM
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I'd shove A2s pre here often.

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wtf?
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Old 07-24-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

75s>KJo>A2s>88
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:09 PM
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

After reading this thread, I keep seeing 88 on button.
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:23 PM
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I'd shove A2s pre here often.

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wtf?

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sorry, often IFF I played it.
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Old 07-24-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

Hijack open raise and you pick up A2s on the button. If you decide to play it you push? Sounds awesome.
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:11 PM
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I haven't read much of the thread, but this is highly dependent on history/flow. If you know the guy is calling pretty tight and mostly going to CRAI, I'd want KJ > A2s/88 > 57 since calling all in w/ a 5 hi draw sort of sucks.

if he's looser and there's more of a chance he is either leading or c/c a decent number of flops, id want to be playing the 57s a lot more.

88 is best when you know he is the type to call these 3bets with a pp and will often c/c on a nice looking flop.
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Old 07-24-2007, 08:38 PM
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Default Re: (Simple?) 3-bet Scenario

In the situation you described with the information you provided, I dont think it makes any difference what our cards are.
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