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#81
07-22-2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: Which Is Worse
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Putting on and charging admission for those over 21 to watch dogfights or offering live homosexual sex shows between consenting adults? [/ QUOTE ] lets clarify dogfight = torturing an animal to death for your own entertainment homosexual show = 2 people [censored] for yours and their entertainment not even close 
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#82
07-22-2007, 10:42 PM
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Re: Which Is Worse
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[ QUOTE ] Putting on and charging admission for those over 21 to watch dogfights or offering live homosexual sex shows between consenting adults? [/ QUOTE ] lets clarify dogfight = torturing an animal to death for your own entertainment homosexual show = 2 people [censored] for yours and their entertainment not even close [/ QUOTE ] Well... if they are fat ugly people (of the opposite sex to which you are attracted), then it's pretty close. And if you have to pay more than you do for watching the dogs maul each other, then it might be a lot worse. Think of all the starving kids you could feed with the extra entrance fee money you'll be forced to pay.
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#83
07-22-2007, 11:18 PM
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Re: Which Is Worse
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Putting on and charging admission for those over 21 to watch dogfights or offering live homosexual sex shows between consenting adults? [/ QUOTE ] lets clarify dogfight = torturing an animal to death for your own entertainment homosexual show = 2 people [censored] for yours and their entertainment not even close [/ QUOTE ] Well... if they are fat ugly people (of the opposite sex to which you are attracted), then it's pretty close. And if you have to pay more than you do for watching the dogs maul each other, then it might be a lot worse. Think of all the starving kids you could feed with the extra entrance fee money you'll be forced to pay. [/ QUOTE ] why would i pay to see sex acts that i wasnt interested in? i wouldnt. as for the fee thing, i think that the fees were assumed to be equal for the audience in the terms of sklanskys original proposition.
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#84
07-23-2007, 02:43 AM
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Re: Which Is Worse
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Which Is Worse [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Putting on and charging admission for those over 21 to watch dogfights or offering live homosexual sex shows between consenting adults? [/ QUOTE ] Wrong question. See below for correct question to ask: Which can I make the most profit from? Dogfights is the answer, especially if betting is involved. -Zeno, The amoral Antipope PS. The over 21 clause is interesting; it would not be mush of an issue for the dogfights though it would obviously apply to the sex exhibition. That in itself brings other issues into the mix even if not intended.
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#85
07-23-2007, 02:19 PM
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"homosexuality is a far more subtle display of survival of the fittest. chez " I don't know if anyone has ever explained to you how the birds and the bees work... [/ QUOTE ] They have birds and Bee's in Canaduh ???? WILL SOMEONE PLZ IP CHECK AND BAN THIS DOOFUS
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#86
07-23-2007, 05:25 PM
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Re: Which Is Worse
Ok so I'm gonna assume DS is "speaking in a another language" or whatever. He's asking a question, but obviously the answers aren't important. Well they might be a little important, but we're really after personality factors, right? Morality, ethics, blah blah: why is considering this question important? What might play a role in one's decision?
Anyway, I read the question like this: Which would I rather PUT ON? With would I rather adopt, integrate and use, maybe? Charge admission for. It's a live show, and I can pick either one. Like for my personality and character maybe. Which is more moral to employ? DS presents two polar opposites: Vicious fighting (forced, which all fighting is, by nature) or strange-loving (also kind of "forced" in that it's unnatural.) Dog vs. dog, man vs. man. Both are weird for me, where I'm at, they're unnecessary and, well, "inefficient". Though inefficient is kind of a crappy word for what I'm trying to express. It's like: I don't want to SEE or DO either.
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#87
07-23-2007, 05:34 PM
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Dog vs. dog, man vs. man. [/ QUOTE ] DS never says "man" (assuming you meant that in the gender-specific way). I know lots of heterosexual guys who would pay to watch some homosexual girls have sex. So, I think I could make more money with the homosexual shows, for sure. Therefore, I think that is better than the dog fight show. More EV.
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#88
07-24-2007, 04:42 PM
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Now you're just mangling words. Something can be an impediment to reproductive success and yet still get carried along because it's a random mutation that piggybacked on some chromosome or is some combination of recessive alleles. My very basic point is that just because we have something, doesn't mean it was any way "fit", unless you define "fit" to mean any trait that we have. The implication by SilentA is that homosexuality must have someone contributed to the fitness of the organism to be present, which is silly. [ QUOTE ] Try forgetting about the direct consequences of homosexual sex itself, and try thinking about indirect effects of homosexuality and/or aspects that are very fit that could indirectly lead to some people becoming homosexuals. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] I think you are correct that many people overstate natural selection and over-emphasize fitness, but I think you are maybe barking up the wrong tree here. I think a pretty decent case could be made that since many mammal species have some significant number of homosexuals, that it probably does have some use. However, without understanding homosexuality fully, it is impossible to say for certain.
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#89
07-24-2007, 10:53 PM
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Putting on and charging admission for those over 21 to watch dogfights or offering live homosexual sex shows between consenting adults? [/ QUOTE ] By worse im assuming you are asking which of the two is more immoral and/or unethical of the two, correct? The adults participating in the sex show are consenting meaning they are fully aware of what they are participating in and agree to having sexual relations in front of the audience. The Dog fight is between animals who are not consenting. Dog trainers abuse their dogs. The prevailing mind set among dog fighting owners is that the more the dog suffers, the tougher he will become, and the better fighter he will therefore be. The dog trainers torture their dogs and force the dogs to fight. Both the audiences will receive pleasure out of attending the show. The difference between the two looks like this. 1. The dogs are forced into fighting for their lives 2. The performers in the sex show are consenting. 3. dog fights result in the suffering of living animals, and the loss of a life. 4. sex shows result in pleasure for everyone involved The dog fight is definitly the "worse" of the two
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#90
07-24-2007, 11:35 PM
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Re: Which Is Worse
Phil,
To further this hijack a little bit, can you think of any traits that are comparable to homosexuality that you believe also are examples of this "frayed wiring" explanation that are as widespread (both horizontally and vertically) as homosexuality? You mentioned kinks and fetishes, and I think that is a good point. Anything else that you think firmly rejects "fit" explanations?
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