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Obviously he doesn't have the other Q, and although he should be able to get away from a lower boat, he probably doesn't. My money is on AK...
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This is a steal situation so I never fold.
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Also, I'm not a big fan of the flop raise [/ QUOTE ] Please explain why. |
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[ QUOTE ] Also, I'm not a big fan of the flop raise [/ QUOTE ] Please explain why. [/ QUOTE ] k, bb 3 bets then leads this flop. What are we doing by raising? Getting value? no. Board: Qc Jh Ts Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 41.205% 33.62% 07.58% 179745 40536.00 { KQo } Hand 1: 58.795% 51.21% 07.58% 273783 40536.00 { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo } I think this is a fine time to use the WA/WB concept and call down, and if the board bricks turn and river, we can fold UI (this is only if villain cannot fire 3 barrels with AJo/AJs or 99, if he can fire 3 barrels with those 2 hands, we have to call river. Board: Qc Jh Ts 4s 3c Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 35.000% 30.00% 05.00% 162 27.00 { KQo } Hand 1: 65.000% 60.00% 05.00% 324 27.00 { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo } Board: Qc Jh Ts 4s 3c Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 27.778% 22.22% 05.56% 108 27.00 { KQo } Hand 1: 72.222% 66.67% 05.56% 324 27.00 { TT+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo } Board: Qc Jh Ts 4s 3c Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 07.143% 00.00% 07.14% 0 27.00 { KQo } Hand 1: 92.857% 85.71% 07.14% 324 27.00 { TT+, AQs+, KQs, AQo+, KQo } |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Also, I'm not a big fan of the flop raise [/ QUOTE ] Please explain why. [/ QUOTE ] k, bb 3 bets then leads this flop. What are we doing by raising? Getting value? no. { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo } [/ QUOTE ] This seems an pretty tight BB range for a 3-bet vs. a button open-raise and a 3-bet on the flop, and I'm a 6-max nit. |
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Also, I'm not a big fan of the flop raise [/ QUOTE ] Please explain why. [/ QUOTE ] k, bb 3 bets then leads this flop. What are we doing by raising? Getting value? no. { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo } [/ QUOTE ] This seems an pretty tight BB range for a 3-bet vs. a button open-raise and a 3-bet on the flop, and I'm a 6-max nit. [/ QUOTE ] They're a little tight, but I think he did a good job at getting his point across. There aren't many hands that we get "good" action from Against a "solid" player, I call the flop with the intention of just calling the turn and river UI. This preserves our implied odds and prevents us from bloating the pot with a so-so showdownable hand. |
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[ QUOTE ] k, bb 3 bets then leads this flop. What are we doing by raising? Getting value? no. { 99+, AJs+, KQs, AJo+, KQo } [/ QUOTE ] This seems an pretty tight BB range for a 3-bet vs. a button open-raise and a 3-bet on the flop, and I'm a 6-max nit. [/ QUOTE ] I think the range he used didn't even include the flop 3-bet. While I do think it could be a bit tight, I also think that a lot of the hands you could add to it you wouldn't want to be raising, either. I definitely misjudged my equity on the flop and I think a call on the flop would've been better. TP2K with an OESD seemed good in the heat of it. |
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Grunch.
Did you consider JJ? |
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That was Befolder with A9 [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img] [/ QUOTE ] LOL. I don't play that low....except on FT where I'm trying build the roll back up there. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] I also don't berate my horrible opponents. [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] |
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[ QUOTE ] Also, I'm not a big fan of the flop raise [/ QUOTE ] Please explain why. [/ QUOTE ] For me, my 3 betting range from the BB is actually tighter than from the sb. The reason being is part of the reason I'll 3 bet lighter in the SB is that I don't want the BB to come along. If the sb has already folded, I'm far more likely to just call w/ a hand like A9 (Remy). I'll give a BB a bit more credit for a hand here. Now onto your actual question. A lot of the hands that are three betting you pf, just hit this flop super hard. QQ, JJ, TT and AK-AQ have you hurtin'. As a matter of fact, really only 99-77 or something like that doesn't have you boned, so even though you hit top pair, you're still soaked a lot of the time and I'd rather play this draw a bit more passively because I know the chance that I'm still behind is fairly apt. Edit: Obviously missed AA and KK, which lead to more boning of the bankroll....bone. Just wanted to say it one more time. |
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