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interesting math problem
The prime decompositions of different integers m and n involve the same primes. The integers m+1 and n+1 also have this property. Is the number of such pairs (m,n) finite or infinite?
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Re: interesting math problem
Yes, the number of such pairs is finite or infinite...
but that's probably not what you meant [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] |
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Re: interesting math problem
Infinite.
If k is a positive integer, then pairs: [m,n] -> [ (2k)^2-1 , (2k+2)^2-1] [m+1, n+1] -> [(2k)^2 , (2k+2)^2] will have that required property of decomposition. |
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Re: interesting math problem
This is not correct. For example, with k=5, you have m=99
and n=143 but 13 divides 143 but not 99. |
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Re: interesting math problem
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This is not correct. For example, with k=5, you have m=99 and n=143 but 13 divides 143 but not 99. [/ QUOTE ] They are both divided by 11. Just decompose it as a difference of squraes: a^2-b^2=(a-b)(a+b) |
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Re: interesting math problem
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[ QUOTE ] This is not correct. For example, with k=5, you have m=99 and n=143 but 13 divides 143 but not 99. [/ QUOTE ] They are both divided by 11. Just decompose it as a difference of squraes: a^2-b^2=(a-b)(a+b) [/ QUOTE ] 99 = 3 x 3 x 11 143 = 11 x 13 3 doesn't divide 143 and 13 doesn't divide 99 |
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Re: interesting math problem
Very likely infinite. If you believe the Lenstra-Pomerance-
Wagstaff conjecture about the number of Marsenne primes less than 2^x-1 being asymptotic to (e^gamma)(log_base2(x)), not only are there an infinity of Marsenne primes, but a function that describes asymptotically how many: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenstra...aff_conjecture Now, suppose q is a Marsenne prime, i.e., q+1 = 2^p for some prime p>=2 and q is also a prime (an odd prime). With m=q-1, m+1=q, n+1=q^2, n=q^2-1=(q+1)(q-1)=(2^p)m. Then, m is even and clearly m and n have the same prime factors. Also, trivially, n+1 and m+1 have the same prime factors (namely, q). |
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Re: interesting math problem
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[ QUOTE ] This is not correct. For example, with k=5, you have m=99 and n=143 but 13 divides 143 but not 99. [/ QUOTE ] They are both divided by 11. Just decompose it as a difference of squraes: a^2-b^2=(a-b)(a+b) [/ QUOTE ] OP: [ QUOTE ] The prime decompositions of different integers m and n involve the same primes. The integers m+1 and n+1 also have this property. Is the number of such pairs (m,n) finite or infinite? [/ QUOTE ] Not just "one of the same prime", but (all of) the same primes. For example: m = 2, n = 8 m = 2^1 n = 2^3 ---> both share the same primes m+1 = 3, n+1 = 9 m+1 = 3^1 n+1 = 3^2 ---> both share the same primes |
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Re: interesting math problem
bigpooch,
I am looking for a solution using only high school math. |
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Re: interesting math problem
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The prime decompositions of different integers m and n involve the same primes. The integers m+1 and n+1 also have this property. Is the number of such pairs (m,n) finite or infinite? [/ QUOTE ] Here's a related question. What are all the pairs of numbers (k,k+1) such that one is a power of 2 and the other is a power of 3. Examples are (1,2), (2,3), (3,4), (8,9). Are there any others. Anyone know? Does anyone know of techniques to answer questions like this? Is it some standard number theory, or is it really difficult? |
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