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07-24-2007, 07:00 AM
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Re: nl 200 - 88
what's wrong w/ just calling? push is ridiculous.
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#12
07-24-2007, 07:05 AM
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Re: nl 200 - 88
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what's wrong w/ just calling? push is ridiculous. [/ QUOTE ] I push is ridiculous but I am veyr happy to get it in on this flop. But I do no CR Shove. I make it 79.85 on the flop and am happy if they shove.
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#13
07-24-2007, 07:07 AM
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Re: nl 200 - 88
I don't see how you can possibly be happy if 20x current pot goes in w/ this hand on this flop...
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#15
07-24-2007, 07:22 AM
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Re: nl 200 - 88
i'm kind of tired now but i don't like either of these very much. checkraising smaller is really, really bad imo. he's not going to reciprocate shoving very often and if he does you're certainly a dog.
check/calling could be ok but i need to think about it. it could take some real finesse to make it work right. like leading on specific turn cards or check-raising allin on others. i say this because he pretty obviously has you beat now imo (or potentially has just the bare ace), and if you just play this hand without making a move he's going to play perfectly and could even put you to some difficult decisions. this is gonna be so difficult to play oop i really prefer just ending it on the flop when you have what is pretty much immediate positive expectation. also keep in mind he's already leaked a ton of information about his hand (more than you have yours), so check-calling really just helps bridge that information gap
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#16
07-24-2007, 07:23 AM
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Re: nl 200 - 88
i suggest everyone look at the odds i posted because i was really surprised at how much equity you have vs. his current range and vs. his calling range.
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#17
07-24-2007, 07:24 AM
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i suggest everyone look at the odds i posted because i was really surprised at how much equity you have vs. his current range and vs. his calling range. [/ QUOTE ] Yeah I did some rough calcs and got 35% against the range and then you have folding equity against a good range of them.
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#18
07-24-2007, 07:26 AM
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Re: nl 200 - 88
yeah and putting 200 in a pot of 20 w/ 35% euiqty is just flat out horrible. can't believe ppl are even considering shoving this.
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#19
07-24-2007, 07:30 AM
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Re: nl 200 - 88
Got our EQ vs his callingrange to 32%. And white rabbit the pot is 41, but whatever. He could definatly make this play with air, and he probably wont 2barrel this board so c/c flop c/f alot of turn cards. b3b is pretty hot aswell
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#20
07-24-2007, 07:32 AM
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Re: nl 200 - 88
c/c flop, b/f blank turns isn't bad either [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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