QQ and A on flop?

FineStyle · #1 07-23-2007, 03:14 PM

I had no specific read. Villain's raise says "ace". Is calling spew here? I tended more to fold on the flop. Is that too weak?

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP2 calls, 3 folds, Hero raises, BB calls, MP2 calls.

Flop: (6 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (5 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 9 BB

Aaron W. · #2 07-23-2007, 03:21 PM

The first time someone does this, I just bet-fold the flop. Pay attention to this guy and see what sorts of hands he's willing to raise on the flop.

TheBad · #3 07-23-2007, 04:17 PM

I would try to check/raise the flop, at least that may give us a free card.

Guitierez · #4 07-23-2007, 04:22 PM

We have only two outs to improve. And, how do you know he will bet, given the PF action?

It's rather KQ, KJ, QJ who will get a free card if the flop gets checked thru.

bozlax · #5 07-23-2007, 04:23 PM

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Will he give you a free card if he has an ace? If he hasn't got an ace, why do you want a free card? If he has a king, or KJ, do you want to give him a free card?

RemyXO · #6 07-23-2007, 04:27 PM

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[img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] How are you planning to check-raise? WHOM are you going to check-raise on the flop if you are the preflop raiser?
Good luck getting a free card OOP here if villain really has an ace.

Without reads, I don't have a problem laying this down. Pot is small. We are most probably toast.

bravos1 · #7 07-23-2007, 04:47 PM

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LMAO... really WTF?

stop the fancy play....and quit trying to out-think non-thinking opponents!

Todd · #8 07-23-2007, 04:50 PM

I would either fold, or reraise, depending on the villain and how he plays. Almost never would I call, and continue playing OOP.

NIX · #9 07-23-2007, 04:58 PM

Without any sort of read, I just fold this to the flop raise. If he raises a lot of flops or with a lot of hands that aren't top pair, then I'm playing on.

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If it checks through, we're most likely ahead and don't need a free card.

RemyXO · #10 07-23-2007, 05:04 PM

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I would either fold, or reraise, depending on the villain and how he plays. Almost never would I call, and continue playing OOP.

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Say, we are against a known tricky aggressive opponent, who would raise here with an Ace, a ten, or a seven.
What is the benefit of raising vs calldown?