SSNL POKER [cheese] thread JULY PT 2

[rzweig]

Can I get more value out of this besides betting more on the flop and river when I know he has an overpair?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $104.50
BB: $98.50
Hero (UTG): $104.10
MP: $100.00
CO: $122.75
BTN: $144.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $10.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($21.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, BTN calls $15.00

Turn: ($51.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($51.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32.00</font>, BTN calls $32.00

Pot Size: $115.50 ($3 Rake)

BTN had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$57.00)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Tens full of Fours) and WON ( $55.50)

[aislephive]

If you lead flop then please lead turn and river.

Default play is to c/r flop though.

[Imrahil]

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Can I get more value out of this besides betting more on the flop and river when I know he has an overpair?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $104.50
BB: $98.50
Hero (UTG): $104.10
MP: $100.00
CO: $122.75
BTN: $144.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $10.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($21.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, BTN calls $15.00

Turn: ($51.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($51.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32.00</font>, BTN calls $32.00

Pot Size: $115.50 ($3 Rake)

BTN had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$57.00)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Tens full of Fours) and WON ( $55.50)

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Bet the turn because he's never folding anything.

[bilbo-san]

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In retrospect its an easy fold (the 333)...oh and just lost another hand...signed out and dont have HH. guy raises to $6,caller, i make it $30, guy calls..flop Qh 9h 6d

I bet $48, he pushes for $160, i call...he has 66, standard again right?

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Depends what you have (I'm guessing AA). Yeah, standard.

[wrschultz]

July has been such a sick sick month. I've been out of town almost the entire month, and I've only been able to play about 4k hands I think. I'm rapidly approaching my best month ever with just 4k hands though... Running at 20ptbb+ at 3/6 will do that though. Today's session from Tuscon, Arizona:

[Imrahil]

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In retrospect its an easy fold (the 333)...oh and just lost another hand...signed out and dont have HH. guy raises to $6,caller, i make it $30, guy calls..flop Qh 9h 6d

I bet $48, he pushes for $160, i call...he has 66, standard again right?

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Depends what you have (I'm guessing AA). Yeah, standard.

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333 is an easy fold against a guy who open limps?

[FGators]

I had KK on the Q96 flop, he had 66 obv. If I have KK or AA in a reraised pot it seems that my opponents flop a set like 50% of the time...good to know.

I think I'm gonna start calling 3bets regardless of stack sizes to just bust people becauses thats the way to win, right?

[aislephive]

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I had KK on the Q96 flop, he had 66 obv. If I have KK or AA in a reraised pot it seems that my opponents flop a set like 50% of the time...good to know.

I think I'm gonna start calling 3bets regardless of stack sizes to just bust people becauses thats the way to win, right?

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Shut the hell up, honestly. You suck at this game, period. Get better or quit whining.

[bilbo-san]

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In retrospect its an easy fold (the 333)...oh and just lost another hand...signed out and dont have HH. guy raises to $6,caller, i make it $30, guy calls..flop Qh 9h 6d

I bet $48, he pushes for $160, i call...he has 66, standard again right?

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Depends what you have (I'm guessing AA). Yeah, standard.

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333 is an easy fold against a guy who open limps?

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Not easy, but correct.

He doesn't have an over-pair. He doesn't have 2 pair. What's left? You think he puts in 100BBs in a limped pot with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]?

Think about the range of an average open-limp. If it all goes in, he's got a flush here almost always.

Only hand you beat is 22. Like I said, it's entirely different if the flop is a lot more coordinated.

[Poker_is_Hard]

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Can I get more value out of this besides betting more on the flop and river when I know he has an overpair?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $104.50
BB: $98.50
Hero (UTG): $104.10
MP: $100.00
CO: $122.75
BTN: $144.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $10.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.00

Flop: ($21.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $15.00</font>, BTN calls $15.00

Turn: ($51.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($51.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32.00</font>, BTN calls $32.00

Pot Size: $115.50 ($3 Rake)

BTN had Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] and LOST (-$57.00)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (a full house, Tens full of Fours) and WON ( $55.50)

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IMO c/r on the flop increases your chances for action. On a C/R he could put you on a flush or steal attempt. When you lead he has to believe you have something.