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#51
07-22-2007, 08:26 PM
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Re: 100nl folding a boat?
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[ QUOTE ] For those who don't like the preflop call, how deep would you need to be to make the call? [/ QUOTE ] That's not really relevant. [/ QUOTE ] Of course it's relevant. If stacks are 1000bb deep...you can practically play ATC in position against this guy. 
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#52
07-22-2007, 08:28 PM
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Re: 100nl folding a boat?
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1.)uggh at 3betting... 2.)calling pf is 100% completely OK... i don't understand why we WOULDN'T want to take a flop at this guy [/ QUOTE ] Finally...a post that makes sense. What's w/ everyone being so nitty these days? [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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#53
07-22-2007, 08:28 PM
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Re: 100nl folding a boat?
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1.)uggh at 3betting... 2.)calling pf is 100% completely OK... i don't understand why we WOULDN'T want to take a flop at this guy [/ QUOTE ] you probably frustrate a ton of people and can manipulate them well, but you can't actually claim you are making money in this spot. Rest of ssnl with 100-150bb should be folding.
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#54
07-22-2007, 08:43 PM
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Re: 100nl folding a boat?
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] For those who don't like the preflop call, how deep would you need to be to make the call? [/ QUOTE ] That's not really relevant. [/ QUOTE ] Of course it's relevant. If stacks are 1000bb deep...you can practically play ATC in position against this guy. [/ QUOTE ] Hmmm. Strongly disagree. Just because 27o can flop trips does not mean you are ever going to take his stack without a ridiculous cooler or ever even a particularly big pot tbh.
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#55
07-22-2007, 08:44 PM
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Re: 100nl folding a boat?
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[ QUOTE ] 1.)uggh at 3betting... 2.)calling pf is 100% completely OK... i don't understand why we WOULDN'T want to take a flop at this guy [/ QUOTE ] you probably frustrate a ton of people and can manipulate them well, but you can't actually claim you are making money in this spot. Rest of ssnl with 100-150bb should be folding. [/ QUOTE ] ummm villain is 40/11... lets not give him too much credit
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#56
07-22-2007, 09:05 PM
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Re: 100nl folding a boat?
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Of course it's relevant. If stacks are 1000bb deep...you can practically play ATC in position against this guy. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hmmm. Strongly disagree. Just because 27o can flop trips does not mean you are ever going to take his stack without a ridiculous cooler or ever even a particularly big pot tbh. [/ QUOTE ] I said "practically"...obviously fold the pure garbage. And this guy is 40/11...how can you honestly say we won't ever win a big pot off him? These guys are almost always terrible and take marginal hands way way too far.
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#57
07-22-2007, 09:42 PM
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Re: 100nl folding a boat?
thin value? huh give an example of a spot you can get thin value with QJ on?
Say the flop is J22. You could call flop/float turn or bet river when he checks for "thin value" but that value is just so thin because its hard for him to call with hands like 99/TT and he doesn't have JT that often (you basically only beat 3 hands you could valuebet against and lose to like 6 hands).
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#58
07-22-2007, 09:51 PM
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Re: 100nl folding a boat?
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[ QUOTE ] Of course it's relevant. If stacks are 1000bb deep...you can practically play ATC in position against this guy. [/ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Hmmm. Strongly disagree. Just because 27o can flop trips does not mean you are ever going to take his stack without a ridiculous cooler or ever even a particularly big pot tbh. [/ QUOTE ] I said "practically"...obviously fold the pure garbage. And this guy is 40/11...how can you honestly say we won't ever win a big pot off him? These guys are almost always terrible and take marginal hands way way too far. [/ QUOTE ] Pure garbage is all relative to hand ranges. QJo doesn't play particularly well against a 40/10's utg range, but I don't hate a call either, but I'm folding generally. On the river folding is laughably. bad
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#59
07-22-2007, 10:08 PM
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Re: 100nl folding a boat?
preflop is terrible, i fold there
pretty sure i fold the flop too dont raise the turn, just call river i have no real answer... i definitely dont think folding is as bad as some people are making it out to be with an overbet like that
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#60
07-22-2007, 11:04 PM
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Re: 100nl folding a boat?
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preflop is terrible, i fold there pretty sure i fold the flop too dont raise the turn, just call river i have no real answer... i definitely dont think folding is as bad as some people are making it out to be with an overbet like that [/ QUOTE ] i don't understand why it took so many posts in this thread for this sense to arrive. i was going to make the same point - fold preflop, fold the flop. however, i can't imagine ever the fourth nuts on the river to a 40/11. (the royal flush, AQ and AA are the only hands that beat you)
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