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Old 07-22-2007, 07:31 PM
Jaap Jaap is offline
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Default [25NL] potsize riverbet can we call with 2 pair

71/5/1.5 donk is always minbetting when he has a good hand. I don't really care about the flush too much because I allways seen him minbetting when he has a made hand (like top pair).

The turn 4-bet worries me though. Can I call this riverbet?

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Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.25
6 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $27.35
UTG+1: $8.50
CO: $20.80
Button: $32.80
SB: $10.65
BB: $2.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button calls, 2 folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3.5, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $0.25</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.25, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $0.5</font>, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $5.5</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($15.75, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO is all-in $14.05</font>, Hero ??.
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Old 07-22-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: [25NL] potsize riverbet can we call with 2 pair

You've taken the most akward line I've ever seen in my life, so I can't put him on a hand.
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default Re: [25NL] potsize riverbet can we call with 2 pair

Pf raise is fine.

Why do we check the flop here? I'm c-betting here. As played i'm reraising his flop bet all day here.

@ the turn: why check here? there is a flushdraw out there and we got 1 of the 5 cards that we want. Bet the turn for a minimum of 2/3 of the pot to charge the draws. U have to be agressive i order to win.

As played i'm folding the river. U can't call here there's a straight out there and a flush.

Key espect here is be more agressive with your hands.
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:31 PM
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Default Re: [25NL] potsize riverbet can we call with 2 pair

I'm not betting the flop because I'm against total callingstations. They fold to a c-bet below 50%. Great, but the value is very thin to bet here against these opponents. My plan was to c/f the flop and when the flop was not bet by villain, I would bet the river for value. The minbet of CO led me to belief he had some kind of made hand (read; he did it numberous times, lot of notes about that). I thought however I wasn't in front most of the time so I did not raise him here.

The turn was a very good card. I tought I could get the most value by check-raising because I knew CO would bet out with his hand. Maybe betting was better, but followed my read. The minraise was strange I think. What good hand can he have that beat me other than AK, AQ, 88, JT (not in his range based on my read)
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Old 07-22-2007, 08:37 PM
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Default Re: [25NL] potsize riverbet can we call with 2 pair

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I'm not betting the flop because I'm against total callingstations. They fold to a c-bet below 50%. Great, but the value is very thin to bet here against these opponents. My plan was to c/f the flop and when the flop was not bet by villain, I would bet the river for value. The minbet of CO led me to belief he had some kind of made hand (read; he did it numberous times, lot of notes about that). I thought however I wasn't in front most of the time so I did not raise him here.

The turn was a very good card. I tought I could get the most value by check-raising because I knew CO would bet out with his hand. Maybe betting was better, but followed my read. The minraise was strange I think. What good hand can he have that beat me other than AK, AQ, 88, JT (not in his range based on my read)

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sounds like you should fold on the river given your read/thoughts
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:19 PM
ben wb ben wb is offline
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Default Re: [25NL] potsize riverbet can we call with 2 pair

You can bet this flop for value against calling stations, it's not that thin.
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: [25NL] potsize riverbet can we call with 2 pair

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You can bet this flop for value against calling stations, it's not that thin.

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Also, I would fold to the 3bet on the turn.
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Old 07-22-2007, 11:28 PM
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Default Re: [25NL] potsize riverbet can we call with 2 pair

I'd call the river bet based on the opponent.
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