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Old 07-22-2007, 12:32 PM
paulnic paulnic is offline
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Default Am I ever ahead here?

NL10, new to table villain has $10 hero covers.

Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $0.4</font>, Button folds, SB calls, BB folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.3, 3 players)
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">hero bets $1.2</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $3.6</font>, hero

is this a draw? 2 pair? set? bluff ever? what would u do?
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:35 PM
Nogatsira Nogatsira is offline
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Default Re: Am I ever ahead here?

I'd call this and reeavaluate the turn. You're in position so see if he bets out again, it might be a feeler reraise from him with a small ace.
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:39 PM
BevillTheDevil BevillTheDevil is offline
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Default Re: Am I ever ahead here?

Push. We are ahead of villian's rang here...probably does this w/ most Ax hands, 87, and a good bit of draws.

edit: forgot to add sets but still ahead here enough to make a push +EV IMO
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:44 PM
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Default Re: Am I ever ahead here?

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Push.

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Old 07-22-2007, 01:07 PM
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Default Re: Am I ever ahead here?

are you guys serious? maybe be i´m a retardnit but pushing here seems really bad. villain all in calling range here has us crushed b/c he´ll never call a push with Ax. I´m calling an reevaluating the the turn.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:09 PM
BevillTheDevil BevillTheDevil is offline
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Default Re: Am I ever ahead here?

maybe 10NL has change since i use to play but i use to get called by Ax almost aways here...but i dont mind callin and re-eval but that lets him draw and also from what my 10NL experience ppl stack off w/ draws. Maybe i dont give enough credit???
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:22 PM
ILikeTrees ILikeTrees is offline
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Default Re: Am I ever ahead here?

yeah, i'd have to say a push is really bad. you've shown plenty strength, betting p/f and flop unless he's a total donk he's not going to overplay Ax, i think his most likely holdings are a7,a8,78,77,88... all of which are in his range considering these guys will call ace/anything p/f...

i don't think any of these guys are clever enough to semibluff raise 56 or 9T, and even if they were, its a damn stupid move, considering the strength you've shown, he could easily fear a 3bet. i mean maybe 5d6d or 9dTd, but its more likely he'd call and try to hit.

besides, if he would raise 5d6d or 9dTd here you still are an underdog 44%/56% and you're only getting like 2.5 to 1 on your money

probably peel to try and hit a Q, or just fold.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: Am I ever ahead here?

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Push. We are ahead of villian's rang here...probably does this w/ most Ax hands, 87, and a good bit of draws.

edit: forgot to add sets but still ahead here enough to make a push +EV IMO

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Aren't we better off calling this down as opposed to pushing? He might even check the river through if we call the turn bet.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:31 PM
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Default Re: Am I ever ahead here?

what strength? he raised and cbet. That could be anything OP raises with. I've never played 10NL, but at 25NL-100NL This is the standard line of aggressive donks with Ax.

The conversation that is a hand looks like this:

OP: I have a hand
V: I have two pretty cards
(flop)
V: nada
OP: I have the same hand I raised with
V: ha! actually I hit that Ace, lol!

so how should OP respond? I think he should go-

OP: golly, an ace? how come those always come when I have KK? maybe I can push you off the pot?....

or-

OP: I just can't fold my KK, You might have middle pair. let's peel one off.
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:36 PM
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Default Re: Am I ever ahead here?

call and re evaluate the turn
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