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#1
07-21-2007, 11:30 AM
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AK pre-flop
5 handed. 200 BB stacks.
Loose fish opens for 4BB. I call with AKo for deception on the button. BB who is probably a nit re-raises to 4 x the original raise. 1. Fish calls What should I do? 2. Fish folds What should I do? 3. Fish calls and I re-raise BB who shoves. Fold from fish and I..... what? Just pointers.... => 
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#2
07-21-2007, 11:36 AM
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Re: AK pre-flop
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Loose fish opens for 4BB. I call with AKo for deception on the button. [/ QUOTE ]
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#3
07-21-2007, 11:37 AM
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Re: AK pre-flop
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[ QUOTE ] Loose fish opens for 4BB. I call with AKo for deception on the button. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] Yes, but I don't do it often and there are more players in the pot. Please answer my questions. Best regards.
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#5
07-21-2007, 11:41 AM
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Re: AK pre-flop
first off reraise pf, you're not deceiving the fish, he's still stacking off with A-rag
[ QUOTE ] 1. Fish calls What should I do? [/ QUOTE ] after just calling the first raise, you just call [ QUOTE ] 2. Fish folds What should I do? [/ QUOTE ] after just calling the first raise, you just call [ QUOTE ] 3. Fish calls and I re-raise BB who shoves. Fold from fish and I..... what? [/ QUOTE ] if you did choose to reraise and he pushed, unless you put in like 125+ in your RR I fold
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#6
07-21-2007, 11:48 AM
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Re: AK pre-flop
Since you didn't put in the limits or real reads on the BB except "probably a nit"
If the BB is capable of squeezing and he knows that you know that he's capable of squeezing then 4betting sucks unless you're willing to felt. This is such a perfect spot for a squeeze from the BB and if he knows that you know that then he also knows that you can be playing back at him pretty light (ie you look F.O.S. when you 4bet here). Sooooo I would almost never 4bet if I had butchered the hand by flat calling the fish unless I was ready to get it in. Honestly, even without any metagame or "i know he knows" stuff, you look full of ish when you 4bet. So it's a pretty bad play unless you know what you're going to do against a shove.
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#7
07-21-2007, 11:58 AM
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Re: AK pre-flop
"you look full of ish when you 4bet. So it's a pretty bad play unless you know what you're going to do against a shove. "
You are probably right. I can loose a lot of EQ here aginst QQ or I call and loose against AA... Sklansky: don't re raise if a shove would make you throw up. Don't remember it exactly^^ but that is true? No one suggesting a fold here?
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