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Old 07-20-2007, 11:28 PM
IamSoTiredMother IamSoTiredMother is offline
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Default NL25: AKs TPTK+ nut FD on a paired board

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
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Stack sizes:
Hero: $24.05
UTG+1: $21.50
MP1: $34.10
MP2: $24.65
MP3: $14.50
CO: $29.65
Button: $62.40
SB: $47.30
BB: $16.75

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1</font>, 4 folds, CO calls $1 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $1.35)</font>, Button calls $1 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $2.35)</font>, 2 folds.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($3.35, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2.7</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $5.4</font>, Button folds, Hero calls $2.7 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $11.45)</font>.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($14.15, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $14.15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $17.65</font>, CO calls $3.5 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $45.95)</font>.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($49.45, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $49.45)


Results:
Final pot: $49.45

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Any thoughts?

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Old 07-21-2007, 12:13 AM
RyanCMU RyanCMU is offline
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Default Re: NL25: AKs TPTK+ nut FD on a paired board

This is fine...

Once that turn card snaps off we can never fold.

Hell once we make the decision to continue on with the hand, after we call his flop raise we are never folding.

Our decision needs to be made on the flop if we are continuing on with the hand or not... That decision you obv. made when you called.

Once he raises, if we reraise it has to be a shove from us, and I think that if he calls our shove we usually are behind. And I think a shove may risk folding out a hand like KQ, KJ.

So calling his flop raise is the best line.

Moving on...

On the turn your play is fine, by checking we give ourselves are a chance to draw for free to our flush if we are behind to a 9 and if he checks through even if we brick river its a very easy valuebet on any river card and we can expect to get called by KQ KJ.

Checking the turn gives the villain a chance to a make a mistake (giving us a free river w/ a 9) and that is what we want...

Once he bets, your c/r is standard because we can't fold, however, I think its safe to assume that we are behind when he bets the turn and then subsequently calls our c/r.

Some people may argue that our line is to passive and yes there are times when he will hit as well and we lose also.

However, this line gives us the best of every possibility. We can allow him to make the mistake, and we still wil get value from KQ/KJ type hands, even worse hands that may have been making a play on the flop and if turn checks through may call a river bet, Plus, our turn c/r may even have some FE vs another AK (I doubt it, but, its somethin we can't rule out).
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:14 AM
IamSoTiredMother IamSoTiredMother is offline
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Default Re: NL25: AKs TPTK+ nut FD on a paired board

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Hell once we make the decision to continue on with the hand, after we call his flop raise we are never folding.

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With a blank on turn would we play the same way?

You clarified my thoughts. Nice post.
Thanks a lot.
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