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Old 07-20-2007, 11:05 PM
NikkiSixx NikkiSixx is offline
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Default NL 100 Not sure what to make of his flop lead, call river?

Villain is really loose preflop, but seems decent postflop - havent seen him do anything stupid, or made any big moves so far. he is running at 42, 12, 1 over 70 hands, his went to showdown so far is 28%.

Not really sure what to make of his flop lead....


i guess he could have something like Q10, which would make sens or a weak king, like K10...
Hands like KJ or a set might of course to be part of his range, but his line just seems so weird having these, unless he planned on checkraising turn...
You think itīs ok to look him up on river??? or should I just fold...what do u think he takes this line with?

Prima Network No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

SB ($98.80)
BB ($99.00)
UTG ($226.81)
MP ($59.04)
Hero ($110.05)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, MP calls $1, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $3, MP calls $3.

Flop: ($13.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $13.5</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $13.50.

Turn: ($40.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: ($40.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $40.5</font>, Hero????.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:14 PM
FishSticks FishSticks is offline
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Default Re: NL 100 Not sure what to make of his flop lead, call river?

Does he always bet pot?

This is close. I could see air/KQ/AT/QT. I could see KJ/22 even AA/KK/JJ given his donkish preflop tendancies. Did he jam river instantly like he missed a turn checkraise? My gut says fold.
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:19 PM
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Default Re: NL 100 Not sure what to make of his flop lead, call river?

i cant fold this
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Old 07-20-2007, 11:31 PM
Kilillan Kilillan is offline
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Default Re: NL 100 Not sure what to make of his flop lead, call river?

I'm so tempted to call

every draw missed
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 Not sure what to make of his flop lead, call river?

He hasnīt been leading out like that in previos hands, and he doesnīt pot every time, I just really scratched my head on this one, he insta potted both the flop and river. Itīs really weird, my gut told me he was strong as hell on flop but all logic told me wtf...on turn I had a feeling he would wanna checkraise me, and also I felt like using some pot control, hopping to take it to showdown. I normally call this river I think, after checking behind on turn, but here were he instapotted????
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 Not sure what to make of his flop lead, call river?

[ QUOTE ]
I'm so tempted to call

every draw missed


[/ QUOTE ]
but what draws can he realistically have? exactly QT? i doubt this villain would ever donk the flop full pot with an OESD.




looks more like a missed ch/r from KJ or 22. and i wouldnt be surprised to see even JJ-AA from this donk either. as played i think river is a fold

i would rather bet/fold the turn for like $26, and if he calls the turn, then check behind on river if he checks. if he calls turn and shoves river its a fold.
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Old 07-21-2007, 12:39 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 Not sure what to make of his flop lead, call river?

I checked behind on turn also hoping to get some value out of Kx, but I agree betting turn makes the hand a lot easier to play. And yeah I agree betting pot with a draw on that flop and with that potzize on flop seems very weird.

Anyway about the result, I requested extra time, and really wanted to look him up, but he just felt so damn strong even though the line felt weird, that I finally just folded, feeling kinda weak for not looking him up...
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Old 07-21-2007, 01:56 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 Not sure what to make of his flop lead, call river?

wow especially once you check the turn you cant fold this.
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Old 07-21-2007, 04:01 AM
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Default Re: NL 100 Not sure what to make of his flop lead, call river?

bet more preflop. Like $6

as played...call river
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Old 07-21-2007, 04:02 AM
Roger Mainfield Roger Mainfield is offline
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Default Re: NL 100 Not sure what to make of his flop lead, call river?

I call, from his point of view you don't look that strong, and he has no reason to believe you will call a full pot bet. I.E your hand is underreped, and you easily could have induced by checking the turn.
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