3bet pot with weak top pair

schwza · #1 07-20-2007, 03:58 PM

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Button ($183)
Hero ($396)
BB ($645.90)
UTG ($106.80)
MP ($446.20)
CO ($218.80)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $16, 2 folds, Hero raises to $52, 1 fold, MP calls $36.

Flop: ($108) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $77, MP raises to $394.2,

i have 267 left.

villain is a decent reg, aggressive preflop, something like 25/21. today i've been 3betting him pretty liberally and he's mostly been folding, but this hasn't been happening so much that it's really blatant or anything.

Praetor · #2 07-20-2007, 04:01 PM

i would usually check this flop here

tuuufts · #3 07-20-2007, 04:06 PM

I don't really see the point to checking the flop here. This is a really tough spot without some more specific reads. You're getting about 2:1, the board is pretty drawy but you're behind a lot of them. I think folding and calling are pretty close EV wise and wouldn't really fault either one.

wpr101 · #4 07-20-2007, 04:44 PM

I either look for a cheap showdown on the flop or bet/fold as it looks like you did.

Nikademus · #5 07-20-2007, 05:00 PM

Call preflop.

As played, fold flop raise.

berserk · #6 07-20-2007, 06:01 PM

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Call preflop.

As played, fold flop raise.

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Please stop advocating such passive preflop lines, especially out of position. And don't tell people to open limp in 6max.

wuarhg · #7 07-20-2007, 08:43 PM

I think as played standard would be to fold to his flop raise here.

I like pre-flop, great hand to reraise with.

Although it is up to you to determine if he is getting sick of you, but even then he might be pushing hands like TT+ which own you, although TT specifically is very unlikely in this particular hand.

In short: I would fold the flop pretty much always, it's a tough call to make even if you think he is steaming in some way.

wpr101 · #8 07-21-2007, 01:07 AM

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Call preflop.

As played, fold flop raise.

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Calling preflop sucks here.

TheJared · #9 07-21-2007, 01:15 AM

I used to always call in this spot but you see TT-AA way too much.

ebarnet · #10 07-21-2007, 01:18 AM

yea you have to fold this flop, even air like AK has decent equity on you. Most of his range is QQ-AA, some is a flush draw+ other outs(straight cards or overs), and a small amount is AK. You are never far enough ahead here to cover when you're a 10:1 dog.