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Old 07-19-2007, 10:32 PM
Jshuttlesworth Jshuttlesworth is offline
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Default 2/5 live bellagio

Hand from this morning at the 2/5 game at the Bellagio:

Stacks:
hero 900
villain >900

Villain just sat down, bought in for 200, called a PFR out of the blinds, and shoved an 8high flop with Q8. He rebuyed and went on a mini-heater, getting all in with a flush and full house two hands in a row. He plays absolute crap PF but the few times he's raised, he has had a legitimate hand (check called his FD on the flop and CRAI the turn when it hit).

UTG retard limps, Villain makes it 15, button retard calls, I call out of the SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], UTG calls. ~75 in pot

FLOP: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Who likes a CR here? I know that is the standard line, but I really thought this guy would raise AK/AQ, and I didn't want him checking behind with JJ-KK and giving everyone a free card. I lead for 65, two folds, he calls, button folds

TURN: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
pot ~200

I lead for 150 (who checks?), he instantly announces 350. Auto fold?
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Old 07-19-2007, 10:37 PM
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Default Re: 2/5 live bellagio

check raise BIG on flop and be prepared to stick it all in. Hopefully he bets, you raise and then he pushes in with flush draw or pair of aces. Check raise is better than betting out here b/c he will definitely bet any ace and probably bet if he flopped a flush draw. Plus, even if he checks through, the button may take a stab at it without much of a hand.
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:44 AM
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Default Re: 2/5 live bellagio

A c/r is not standard here.

Also I think I c/c the turn w/ c/f'ng being a possiility after live reads. Bottom 2 with an Ace on board is extremely vulnerable. Not sure if I'm willing to stack off on it. If the flop was K97 I see myself going broke much more liberally.
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Re: 2/5 live bellagio

i wouldnt c/r this flop live. $55-pot donk out seems best.

live, i probably c/c turn, c/f river
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:52 AM
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Default Re: 2/5 live bellagio

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Bottom 2 with an Ace on board is extremely vulnerable. Not sure if I'm willing to stack off on it. If the flop was K97 I see myself going broke much more liberally.

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i dunno what to say about this thought process
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Old 07-20-2007, 12:59 AM
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Default Re: 2/5 live bellagio

That its much more likely that you run into a higher 2pair with Ace on board rather then a King here. Especially live. People play any ace, not any king/queen etc...
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: 2/5 live bellagio

start out by calling
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Old 07-20-2007, 05:50 AM
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Default Re: 2/5 live bellagio

Jesus,
Welcome to the mid stakes no limit forum!

You say:
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Who likes a CR here? I know that is the standard line

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Actually, leading into the raiser is the standard here! So you made the nice play.

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I lead for 150 (who checks?), he instantly announces 350. Auto fold?

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Seems like given your read, you can fold here.
Well done.
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Old 07-20-2007, 09:05 AM
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Jesus,
Welcome to the mid stakes no limit forum!

You say:
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Who likes a CR here? I know that is the standard line

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Actually, leading into the raiser is the standard here! So you made the nice play.

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I lead for 150 (who checks?), he instantly announces 350. Auto fold?

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Seems like given your read, you can fold here.
Well done.

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ty bobbo,
hope to be around here more often if i don't go busto.

ty for the responses.
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: 2/5 live bellagio

not sure what your afraid of here at all i think you should always be stacking off here
as long as the river doenst hit a diamond

all the people that are afraid of a higher two pair are just scared money

you have the nine and 7 so making it more unlikely he has a nine or 7
we're gonna give him credit that he doesnt have a deuce

so i think its safe to put him on a range between AT - AK most likely with the king of diamonds thus why he rr the turn
i think you should be calling the turn and if no diamond or paint hits stack off

also remember you can still fill up on the river which you would definately getting paid off by ak or aq
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