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Old 07-20-2007, 01:41 PM
ddagt ddagt is offline
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Default NL200 Live: River play with flopped nut flush

Live No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
8 players

My read of Villain: LAG. Would raise any pair, any Ax from any position pre-flop. Seldom limped instead of raised when first one in. Solid play post-flop, would always continuation bet and slow down after that.

Hero had a tight-aggressive/tight-passive image.

Stack sizes: Hero had ~100BB, Villain had ~90BB.

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is SB with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG (Villain) calls, fold, call, fold, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB checks.

Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($12, 6 players)
Hero checks. Someone please bet. Checked around.

Turn: 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($12, 6 players)
Hero bets $10, fold, UTG calls, fold, fold, fold.

Had to bet, hope someone has a calling hand.

River: 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($32, 2 players)
Hero bets $15, Villain raises to $45, Hero ?

Didn't like the fact that the board paired, but Villian had been raising preflop with any pairs. Call, re-raise small, re-raise all-in?

Comments on all streets welcome.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:08 PM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: NL200 Live: River play with flopped nut flush

If villain is good post-flop, I'd be worried. He knows there is a flush and a fh on board, but doesn't seem worried. He called your turn bet -- with what? He knows you are tight and that you must have hit something, but he still raises? I'm a chicken, so I'd just call.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:11 PM
SABR42 SABR42 is offline
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Default Re: NL200 Live: River play with flopped nut flush

Meh, just call.
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Old 07-20-2007, 03:13 PM
CazicT CazicT is offline
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Default Re: NL200 Live: River play with flopped nut flush

I would just call because he called your turn bet you figure he had to have at least 2 pair (87) and now has boated up. Live players can surprise you though with their donkishness so a push probably isn't that bad since you aren't that deep (if I interpreted correctly). Depends on your read on this guy.
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: NL200 Live: River play with flopped nut flush

Yeah, he would probably play 87 that way, he could have filled up without a pp.

I feel I haven't been getting full value out of my flushes recently. Recently I checked a flopped nut flush OOP when the board paired on the river (I had just called turn) and the agressive villian showed down a lower flush, I could have made another 10-20BB there on river. Also checked a 8-high flush on non-paired board for big pot, should have gotten some more value on that one too, possibly another 40-50BB.

Maybe a better typical line would be bet/call flushes on river with a paired board, or small flushes on non-paired board, but not raise without a great read on villian.
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:22 PM
Albert Moulton Albert Moulton is offline
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Default Re: NL200 Live: River play with flopped nut flush

Call the $30 raise on the river.

The rest looks ok to me.
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Old 07-20-2007, 04:32 PM
mce86 mce86 is offline
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Default Re: NL200 Live: River play with flopped nut flush

This is just a call here. Your not going to gain much more value since your hand and his is so undefined. He could of flopped a flush himself, or he could of filled up. Great flop..possibly a great river too if he just has trips.
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Old 07-20-2007, 08:13 PM
Mr_Donktastic Mr_Donktastic is offline
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Default Re: NL200 Live: River play with flopped nut flush

Just call.

Also I like leading the flop. I mean, did you want to c/r? What's the point of c/ring?

And if you wanted to check/call the flop...what are you gonna do on the turn? Most of the time it will go check/check. Just lead the flop and try to build a pot. Most of the time it won't work but it is the best way to get money in when villain does have a strong 2nd nuts kinda hand.
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