Axs in SB vs button raise

[jellesi]

What do you do, call raise or fold? I tend to mix it up between calling and raising, maybe calling 80% of the time and raising 20%. I'm never folding unless the raise is bigger than normal.
Reason I ask is because I saw a post in the highstakes forum where someone had posted a hand where he had called PF in SB vs Buttonraiser with A3s and I think it was two respectable posters who said fold preflop wtf??! [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]

Oh yeah, this is 2-4 and 3-6 NL I'm talking about. Lower than that I'll just repop it 100% of the time [img]/images/graemlins/cool.gif[/img]

[w33ktight]

Totally depends on your image, who raised, etc.

Folding vs an unknown is standard oop.

[minSim]

I rather raise than call and rather fold than raise.

[Trix]

seems like an easy fold, why do you want to play a bad hand oop when you only have 1/200th of your stack in ?

[jellesi]

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seems like an easy fold, why do you want to play a bad hand oop when you only have 1/200th of your stack in ?

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Because I think I have the best hand here a lot vs a steal from button. I also don't think position is that important in the stakes we play, since there is rarely any floating or setting up of bluffs going on. I am more inclined to play Axs from SB vs Button steal than from button vs UTGraiser. Does this make sense?

This is obv 6max btw.

[Praetor]

fold, and thinking position is not important is ridiculous

[Jurrr]

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Because I think I have the best hand here a lot vs a steal from button.

[/ QUOTE ]True. But the only flops that we can play fast and feel good about it include at least two of our suit/2pr/trips.

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I also don't think position is that important in the stakes we play,

[/ QUOTE ]Huh??? Leveling?

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since there is rarely any floating or setting up of bluffs going on.

[/ QUOTE ]Em......huh? is this online? What site?

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I am more inclined to play Axs from SB vs Button steal than from button vs UTGraiser. Does this make sense?

[/ QUOTE ]It makes in the sense that you say the strength of your hand as compared to his distribution matters more than the positional disadvantage. I don't think it's true though it could be in some more or less realistic scenarios.

[jellesi]

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Because I think I have the best hand here a lot vs a steal from button.

[/ QUOTE ]True. But the only flops that we can play fast and feel good about it include at least two of our suit/2pr/trips.

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I also don't think position is that important in the stakes we play,

[/ QUOTE ]Huh??? Leveling?

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since there is rarely any floating or setting up of bluffs going on.

[/ QUOTE ]Em......huh? is this online? What site?

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I am more inclined to play Axs from SB vs Button steal than from button vs UTGraiser. Does this make sense?

[/ QUOTE ]It makes in the sense that you say the strength of your hand as compared to his distribution matters more than the positional disadvantage. I don't think it's true though it could be in some more or less realistic scenarios.

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Ugh, ok, I give up and will just reraise or fold from now on. Thing that annoys me most is when multitabling LAG grinders (like myself) raise the button and Im sitting there with Axs in SB, which I am sure most of the time is a better hand than his, I am just gonna give it up and let him have the blinds? [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]

Another followup question that I have is Axs SB vs BB when folded to, raise everytime no? I also raise more when playing SB to BB than i normally do...

[SwimStrong]

He can profitably raise a lot from the button into the blinds for a reason, and you should fold this type of hand because of that same reason. Position always matters.

[paulnic]

Axs? is that A2s? AKs???? no where near enough info here to pass any kind of judgment. against rock of gibraltor fold, against maniac raise... need some specifics...