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07-19-2007, 07:51 PM
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Re: ($225) a very annoying common spot ITM.
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Wow wtf, this i mind blowing. [/ QUOTE ] ? 
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#32
07-19-2007, 08:37 PM
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Re: ($225) a very annoying common spot ITM.
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Just run the numbers now. It is pretty much a fold, since you make money only if they call with top 7%. [/ QUOTE ] Please recalculate sir. This is way off. If they call 7% each, you make 0.7% to 0.8% (doesn't account for overcall, but that's a tiny amount).
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#33
07-19-2007, 09:57 PM
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Ryan If you are planning on 1,000/fold, then you should be doing this with 72o at times to no? [/ QUOTE ] No, this is retarded because a lot of times PEOPLE CALL. Ryan
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#34
07-19-2007, 09:58 PM
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LOL @ limping. oh, and LOL@ min betting. Push or fold... you have too small a stack to get cute. Oh, and what Chipchucker5 said! [/ QUOTE ] lol @ you.
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#35
07-19-2007, 10:19 PM
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[ QUOTE ] Ryan If you are planning on 1,000/fold, then you should be doing this with 72o at times to no? [/ QUOTE ] Fair enough, thx No, this is retarded because a lot of times PEOPLE CALL. Ryan [/ QUOTE ]
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#36
07-19-2007, 10:31 PM
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This is really read dependent/game flow dependent [/ QUOTE ] Agreed. Recent hand image decides this for me. Tighter image standard raise/fold to push - c-bet flop. Looser image fold.
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#37
07-19-2007, 11:31 PM
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Luis, Pushing is out of the question. Ryan [/ QUOTE ] Hm, I must have a big leak 3-handed because I was pretty sure this is a push and 100% sure that push is better than fold. SNGPT seems to agree ... What is your reasoning again?
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#38
07-19-2007, 11:55 PM
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Re: ($225) a very annoying common spot ITM.
I thought it was an autopush as well. I think it is at the lower stakes I play at - 27's & 60's. SNGPT says it is a $EV push unless the blinds call with 16% or more of their hands (33+,A7o+,A3s+,KQo,KTs+). I assume at these higher stakes, the players are more aggressive with their calls in these situations, so that's why shoving isn't correct? Please enlighten me folks.
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#39
07-19-2007, 11:59 PM
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Re: ($225) a very annoying common spot ITM.
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has anyone got the equilibrium ranges for this spot? would be very interested [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]. [/ QUOTE ] With SNGPT I got about 34%, 14% and 17% (b,sb,bb). With SNGWiz I got about 23%, 9% and 10%. Those are with bvb playing NE (80%, 33%) when hero folds and BB overcalling KK+. Right?
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#40
07-20-2007, 03:18 AM
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Re: ($225) a very annoying common spot ITM.
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[ QUOTE ] Just run the numbers now. It is pretty much a fold, since you make money only if they call with top 7%. [/ QUOTE ] Please recalculate sir. This is way off. If they call 7% each, you make 0.7% to 0.8% (doesn't account for overcall, but that's a tiny amount). [/ QUOTE ] What did I say? To me anything looser than 7% makes either close to 0% to negative.
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