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Re: How gross is this one? Oaks\' 30/60
I like preflop, and I would probably call the river C/R unless I have a better idea of how villain plays then you provide in the OP. That said: leading flop and turn and C/R the river when the topcard pairs almost certainly means that he isn't worried about that and he is certain that he still has the best hand.
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Re: How gross is this one? Oaks\' 30/60
I like the three bet but it is not always standard.
Raise the flop. If there was a gun pointed at my head I still can't fold the river. I would say hey I lived a good but life blow my brains out. |
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Re: How gross is this one? Oaks\' 30/60
River fold is best played street, I realize some other people don't have self control to fold here but you are just beat like basically 90% of the time here imo..
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Re: How gross is this one? Oaks\' 30/60
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Why don't you give us his hand range here. I think the hand is probably easier to play if you just raise the flop. [/ QUOTE ] |
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Preflop 3-bet is wicked easy. [/ QUOTE ] Would a flop raise then be "wicked standard?" |
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Re: How gross is this one? Oaks\' 30/60
i think preflop is standard, but u got to raise the flop/ turn because the board is so draw heavy, id raise flop personally and call c/r on river
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Re: How gross is this one? Oaks\' 30/60
How can you not call for one more?
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How can you not call for one more? [/ QUOTE ] True, obv I should have called. I felt like I wasn't ahead here even the 7-8% or whatever of the time that I needed for the call to have a positive expectation. Plus, I had just been so owned on the hand (largely self-owned) that I didn't want to part with $60 merely out of frustration. This guy was about 60 and I'd never seen anything remotely tricky out of him (unless openlimping A9o UTG could be considered tricky, lol). IDK... looking back on this hand, I like the 3 bet PF iso move. I think that just calling the flop once opener folds is probably my worst play of the hand; even worse than the river bet-fold. |
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Re: How gross is this one? Oaks\' 30/60
After reading everything so far...here is what was good and bad...
Preflop was fine...no problem. Flop ok...just call is okay-but you have to commit to a raising on the turn. If you raise the flop then you can see if he is strong or weak. You then have the ability to check check the turn if you think he is strong or bet if he is weak. On the river if you get check raised-- the way you did....you have to make a crying call...you put too much in and your table image gets weak. Plus you may have the winner...or as good as a kicker. Even if he said he had KQ...what else would he say that he had. Once you decide to bet on the river then be ready to call a check raise...that is my suggestion. Don't bet the river if you can't take the heat...especially from a Player. |
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Re: How gross is this one? Oaks\' 30/60
this hand is perfect on every street. The river fold takes a lot of guts, but you were there, and you knew it was right.
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