100 NL: JJ on button

fatman20 · #1 07-18-2007, 08:21 AM

No real reads on villian. I had only been at the table a few orbits and had been really active and aggressive but showing down no hands. I figured that with my recent activity he could 3-bet me light there. How does my line look here? Especially interested in what everyone thinks about my flop bet.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $100
UTG+1: $79.40
CO: $126.15
Hero: $174.15
SB: $96.10
BB: $100

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, SB folds, BB raises to $8, Hero raises to $28, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($56.5, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $35, BB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($126.5, 2 players)
BB is all-in $40.5, Hero calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($207.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $207.5)

Results:
Final pot: $207.5

Fletcher19 · #2 07-18-2007, 08:23 AM

are you calling a shove pf?

flop bet is fine, no need to make it much bigger given the effective stacks

fatman20 · #3 07-18-2007, 08:30 AM

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are you calling a shove pf?

flop bet is fine, no need to make it much bigger given the effective stacks

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Boy, I don't know. Considering how active I had been I think he could have been 3-betting me with A9s and up, 99 and up. Considering that I probably would have called a push. Or am I giving your average 100NL player to much credit here.

Fletcher19 · #4 07-18-2007, 08:32 AM

it depends but typically you are going to be crushed by his 5bet shoving range.

fatman20 · #5 07-18-2007, 08:33 AM

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it depends but typically you are going to be crushed by his 5bet shoving range.

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How do you feel about my 4-bet. Should I only do that if I am willing to go all the way with the hand pre-flop?

Chaos_ult · #6 07-18-2007, 08:34 AM

Don't really like 4-betting unless he's shown a proclivity to 3-bet lightly.

Fletcher19 · #7 07-18-2007, 08:35 AM

what he said ^^^

schlimazel · #8 07-18-2007, 09:31 AM

i think JJ a pretty bad hand to 4bet readless. you're folding out his lower pairs that you're ahead of (not giving him a chance to bluff with them) and he's shoving everything that beats you or a coinflip against (AK, maybe AQ).

i'd just call the 3bet and see a flop, esp in position