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Old 07-17-2007, 07:50 PM
JacksAgain JacksAgain is offline
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Default 200NL Can I, should I fold set here?

Villian is Pumuckel1, who I feel is solid, relatively straight forward. He may see me as somewhat spewy. The min raise really confused me...which isn't too hard to do. But I feel like he very often has 666. I'll tell you ahead of time, I think I misplayed the hand. I'll explain soon.


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SB ($61.45)
BB ($310.25)
Hero ($200)
UTG+1 ($171.05)
MP1 ($254.85)
MP2 ($147.15)
CO ($196.65)
Button ($170.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls $2, UTG+1 calls $2, MP1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: ($9) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets $8</font>, MP1 calls $8, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $28</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls $20.

Turn: ($73) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $52</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $104</font>, Hero ?
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:58 PM
Robin Donks Robin Donks is offline
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Default Re: 200NL Can I, should I fold set here?

Can I, should I fold set here?
Never fkn ever. Why did you play 33 in the first place? To flop a set. Now do the decent thing and stack off. If you feel uncomfortable playing bottom set vs major aggression, maybe you should just fold 22-66 in EP or something. If he has 66 or JJ just blame it on isht luck.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: 200NL Can I, should I fold set here?

God damn this might actually be a fold against Pumuckel but Im not sure yet. Give me a minute to think about this.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:35 PM
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Default Re: 200NL Can I, should I fold set here?

I dont know the player, but Id assume JJ is going to raise pf...so now your facing 66 which kills you, and QJ or pair with a flush draw.....Im gonna guess you shouldnt of min-raised and just push if youre gonna raise there.
Tough spot, luckily, if you're beat it doesnt happen too often.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:45 PM
Erudito Erudito is offline
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Default Re: 200NL Can I, should I fold set here?

Tough spot here. I don't think I would be able to fold a set here. If UTG+1 has a higher set, so be it, I go broke on this hand. Can you post the results afterwards? I would be interested in this outcome for proper analysis of this hand.
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Old 07-18-2007, 12:58 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Can I, should I fold set here?

This kinda depends on how you define straight foward. I think there is an outside chance he has JJ or QQ. He cold called twice on the flop which is bad news. I doubt he would do that with QJ. Going broke in an unraised pot is bad. I could see finding a fold, doing it in game is another story.........
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:59 AM
Johnes Benjamin Johnes Benjamin is offline
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Default Re: 200NL Can I, should I fold set here?

Yeah, I would put him on a set of 6's a huge percent of the time. Only thing I could think of besides that would be slowplayed Aces or Kings, and if he was UTG and you were MP it would be different, but I doubt he'd limp behind you with those.
He's got you here.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:13 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Can I, should I fold set here?

Against an unknown opponent, I'm calling here in about 2 seconds. I timed down and folded. I put him on 66. I don't think he'd call my PF raise with JQ and he would have reraised AA or KK. I couldn't think of any other hands he'd play this way. But I'm afraid I'm putting him on too tight of a range. This hand is still bugging me.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Can I, should I fold set here?

you played this hand way too aggressively. if villain is good the only hand he has here is a set and everyonce and awhile QJ if he misclicked the flop.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:40 AM
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Default Re: 200NL Can I, should I fold set here?

BT2- I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, but what do you do differently? C/F turn?
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