LOL Matt Cain and Brian Sabean, hell the Giants in general

[moayer]

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Roberts is locked in at $6.5m over the next two years, a pretty good bargain.

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you're kidding right? as a giants fan he makes me want to vomit every time i hear his name.
i felt you were making good points until your itemized breakdown of the current roster. don't be delusional.

[kyleb]

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Roberts is locked in at $6.5m over the next two years, a pretty good bargain.

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you're kidding right? as a giants fan he makes me want to vomit every time i hear his name.
i felt you were making good points until your itemized breakdown of the current roster. don't be delusional.

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that is actually a good deal.

[shemp]

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Roberts is locked in at $6.5m over the next two years, a pretty good bargain.

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you're kidding right? as a giants fan he makes me want to vomit every time i hear his name.
i felt you were making good points until your itemized breakdown of the current roster. don't be delusional.

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that is actually a good deal.

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Can I buy some pot from you?

[kyleb]

check out his MORP and his projections for the next few years.

he's cheap enough and plays a credible center field. nothing wrong with this signing.

[shemp]

I don't see why I should care about the MORP of a player that will never compete on a +.500 Giants team. I ask you to think about this.

I also hesitate to place *any* emphasis on a forecast stat without knowing how accurate it has been in forecasting.

I've also used forecasts in other contexts enough that I'm not concerned what they say about Dave Roberts, a super nice guy, career back-up, and lucky to have a nice contract.

Not knowing the methodology, I'm also suspicious that this statistic may overvalue that Roberts hasn't played many games.

[THAY3R]

What kind of draft picks did they lose signing him though?

[kyleb]

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I don't see why I should care about the MORP of a player that will never compete on a +.500 Giants team. I ask you to think about this.

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Well then in this case, why aren't I playing for the league minimum for the Royals, Giants, Devil Rays, Rockies, Reds...

[shemp]

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Other than Zito, there aren't any really bad contracts on this team.

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LOL. i'll quote joe sheehan's words:

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# Giants extend Brian Sabean’s contract. Are you kidding me? Somehow, the idea has taken hold that Brian Sabean isn’t responsible for the state of the Giants, that it’s the need to keep Barry Bonds around that has tied his hands, as if having the only guy in baseball with a .500 OBP (offer not valid at the moment) hamstrings the team and the GM. Barry Bonds is a bargain at his current price, not just for business reasons but for baseball ones. The real problem is that Sabean’s decisions outside of keeping Bonds—especially this past winter—are the reasons why the Giants are awful.

The Barry Zito signing has been poked and prodded enough that I’ll leave it alone here. Focus instead on the offense—despite having Bonds, the Giants have a .320 team OBP. Sabean brought in Rich Aurilia to play first base, for reasons passing understanding; he’s at .291. He signed Bengie Molina to a three-year deal; he's at .295. He gave Ray Durham, who’s 2006 screamed “late-career power fluke,” a two-year deal; .320. He signed Dave Roberts to a two-year deal; .304. He brought back Pedro Feliz, who’s just an awful player; .269.

The Giants are lousy because Brian Sabean built a team around Barry Bonds that had almost no choice but to fail. He valued service time more than he did getting on base, and for that, he has a .440 team and a new contract extension."

[owsley]

a .320 obp this year, a .324 in 06, and a .319 in 05... an above average GM at what exactly?