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View Poll Results: What's the most annoying signature call in televised baseball?
CWS' Hawk Harrelson's "You can.. PUT IT ON THE BOOOOARD.... YYYES!!! 18 30.51%
CWS' Hawk Harrelson's "He gone." 27 45.76%
I've never watched a CWS broadcast 14 23.73%
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:30 PM
DonJ DonJ is offline
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

Khan talking on bluff radio: 'I have to go to the bathroom now'
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

@SuperUberBob: btw, who`s the girl with those enormous assets???
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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khan had 9 million starting the hand right ? he raised to 6 million ? Why wouldn't he go all in in the dark, should he wait for the flop to push to gain any fold equity from yang ? No way u should fold to any flop yourself so is there really any FE if u push the flop? What am I missing here.

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you're not missing anything:

- he should have just went all in preflop
- since he didn't, he's not folding any flop
- going all in in the dark vs. waiting for the flop to shove makes no difference in terms of EV, FE, anything
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:31 PM
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Can someone relay the action on Rain's bustout plz?

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donka donka donka donka donka donka donka donka
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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"It's the fastest you ever saw a 6 foot white guy get out of a car."

LOLOLOL

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Hemulth's Helmut! Hysterical!
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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khan had 9 million starting the hand right ? he raised to 6 million ? Why wouldn't he go all in in the dark, should he wait for the flop to push to gain any fold equity from yang ? No way u should fold to any flop yourself so is there really any FE if u push the flop? What am I missing here.

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The point is though, he has a hand that he would prefer to pick up an unchallenged pot with. By raising smaller preflop all he can achieve is to lure Yang in with a wider range. Then, having done so, instead of taking a flop and at least pretending like he's betting because he hit, he basically tells yang that his bet means nothing.
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:32 PM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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I also think it is a little sketchy that the other players and dealer stopped Yang from exposing his hand. If he makes that kind of mistake, that is his problem.

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sketchy? it was an honest mistake that is easily remedied. it's borderline angleshooting not helping.

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huh?

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if you're khan and deliberately letting him flip over his cards just to get the penalty (when you know he's confused), then you're a douchebag and are borderline angleshooting
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

Yang isnt folding anything at 1-6 pot odds, give it up folks, he was basiclly all in and called pre flop and lost a coin flip .
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

You can't seriously fold AQs there. Whether he raises 6mil or all-in doesnt matter. All-in the in dark is of course mandatory once the donk flat calls.
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Old 07-17-2007, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: ** WSOP ME, FT Sweat, Tuesday, July 17 **

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khan had 9 million starting the hand right ? he raised to 6 million ? Why wouldn't he go all in in the dark, should he wait for the flop to push to gain any fold equity from yang ? No way u should fold to any flop yourself so is there really any FE if u push the flop? What am I missing here.

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you're not missing anything:

- he should have just went all in preflop
- since he didn't, he's not folding any flop
- going all in in the dark vs. waiting for the flop to shove makes no difference in terms of EV, FE, anything

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Unless Yang, getting the worst imaginable flop, somehow finds a fold for 3 mil into 16 mil. Its not impossible, and it doesnt impact the EV (as long as he also finds a fold when it comes A or Q high) but it does probably decrease his chance of being eliminated.
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