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Old 07-15-2007, 04:55 PM
Atg Dax Atg Dax is offline
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Default Stars 200$ After the Bubble with QQ

When getting to the final stages of a tournament (or just in the money), Whats the verdit on correct play of QQ ?
It seems players get busted with QQ many times and I was wondering what in fact is the correct way to play them ?
If the pot hasn't been opened yet, obviously a raise is in order, but after some one re raises you, can you fold the hand ?

In this hand I knew the opener would fold his hand, My stack was about half the average stack, so I decided to go for it :
{Ten hands before I had the exact same hand up against the same as here, and got a chop after a 45678 board...}

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t3000 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button (t44179)
SB (t154971)
BB (t17075)
UTG (t152576)
UTG+1 (t69251)
MP1 (t55963)
<font color="#C00000">Hero (t37043)</font>
<font color="#C00000">MP3 (t91208)</font>
CO (t56626)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to t7999</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t36743</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t65487</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: (t112029) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Turn: (t112029) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t112029) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t112029

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qh Qs (two pair, queens and jacks).
MP3 has Kc Ks (full house, kings full of jacks).
Outcome: MP3 wins t112029. </font>
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:58 PM
xxGreat1xx xxGreat1xx is offline
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Default Re: Stars 200$ After the Bubble with QQ

I'd do the same thing. Tough luck that your up against KK. I dont see why you would play it any other way. You raise to 24k and your pushing flop no matter what falls, shoving this pre is what I'm pretty sure 95% of the people will say on this, just didnt work out this time.
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Old 07-15-2007, 04:59 PM
Dunkman Dunkman is offline
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Default Re: Stars 200$ After the Bubble with QQ

As to the reraise question...I mean I've folded QQ PF on occasion. The problem is this. Late in online tournaments, most everyone is usually relatively short. That being the case, you just aren't able to get enough information to find out that your QQ is beat before all your stack is in the middle.

I'm sure you're aware that this hand played itself...I can't even imagine what kind of action I'd have to be faced with to fold QQ with 12 BBs.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:39 PM
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Default Re: Stars 200$ After the Bubble with QQ

Just calling or even folding (gasp) with QQ preflop at a 9-handed table in MP after a standard opening raise isn't a good strategy.

I make the same move in this spot everytime.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:42 PM
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Default Re: Stars 200$ After the Bubble with QQ

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Old 07-17-2007, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: Stars 200$ After the Bubble with QQ

ouch
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