Ethics/Morality

[pfapfap]

While "karma" may be an inappropriate term for it, I believe that we are affected by our actions, and we get out of situations what we put into them. Doing something that's "bad karma" affects you, because deep down you know it's bad and wrong, and so you devalue your self-worth a bit. It sends out negative feelings to those around you (both from your actions and from how you present yourself to people after your devalued worth), which can get into a feedback loop. I also don't rule out the possibility of a larger connection between people and things, but I can't say I'm convinced any particular religion has it right. We are all people on this planet, and we owe it to each other to do the best we can with what we have.

But, y'know, saying something is "bad juju" is a lot simpler than explaining all of that.

[daryn]

juju, same idea though

[mason55]

daryn

there's a couple different senses of "karma" that can be totally non-spiritual dunno if anyone ever means it like this

say you corrected the action at your regular casino in a pot with another regular. this guy should be more likely to look out for your best interests in the near future.


another way i've heard people use it without being spiritual is the whole pay it forward idea. if you do something nice for someone they'll be happy and do something nice for someone else who does something nice for someone else etc etc etc which makes the world as a whole a better place.


also it just sounds good

[daryn]

yeah but that doesn't really explain "bad karma" unless you consider that just the lack of goodness.. you know what i mean?

[mason55]

no, i know exactly what you mean.

i think for a lot of people it's just a cop out type answer. i'd be pretty surprised if many people on here actually believed in the real idea of karma.

[LuckyTxGuy]

Daryn, I don't believe in karma. I am a Christian and I believe in right and wrong, integrity and honesty. Many people who aren't Christians still hold those same principles of honesty also.

Another crazy thing happened....after I posted that story above about my buddy, we went to another poker room to play for awhile. He sat down and when the brush came by he handed him $150. When the brush came back with his chips, he unracked them for him and it was $250 in chips. The brush left and my buddy said he was sort of shocked again and thought maybe he'd handed him 2 $100 bills and a $50. He pulled out his wallet and counted down and he knew it must have been a mistake. He again did the right thing and gave the extra $100 back. I found it pretty odd for him to have that happen twice in one day in the poker room.

[grebe]

WARNING: This post is about "Karma" and low poker content.

My limited understanding about karma is that it is not something that will come back and haunt you if you do something bad, or vice versa. It is actually a hindu idea where everything you do good and bad are measured after you die, and if you have more good karma than bad karma, you will move up the ladder when you are reincarnated. You continue this trend (either up or down, of course) until you only have good karma (which once again, is by your actions in life, not your luck), in which you then reach "Nirvana"...which is where your soul becomes one with the absolute being, and is more of an eternal nothingness, in contrast with the concept of a blissfull "Heaven".

Hope that wasnt too deep. Anyways, I like the "good karma brings good things" philosophy better anyways. And BTW, I am Christian, so if I butchered that up, my apologies in advance.

[goodgrief]

Where is your understanding of EV in all this? In poker, in all gambling games, when I make a mistake I pay. In this situation, the other guy makes the mistake. I am supposed to pay for that too?

Always avoid making the dealer look and feel like a fool. Clearly, if the mistake is going against you and it will cost you money, you've got to speak up, but in this case it's the other player's obligation to speak up. Since he can't be bothered to read his own cards, I don't see why you should do it for him.

Karma, juju, and other superstitious nonsense have no place at the gambling table.

[Mr Rick]

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Where is your understanding of EV in all this? In poker, in all gambling games, when I make a mistake I pay. In this situation, the other guy makes the mistake. I am supposed to pay for that too?

Always avoid making the dealer look and feel like a fool. Clearly, if the mistake is going against you and it will cost you money, you've got to speak up, but in this case it's the other player's obligation to speak up. Since he can't be bothered to read his own cards, I don't see why you should do it for him.

Karma, juju, and other superstitious nonsense have no place at the gambling table.

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I don't apply EV to non-poker events. Once the cards are turned over, it is my obligation along with any other player to point out the winning hand if the dealer has missed it. To not do that would be the equivalent of seeing somebody drop money and not return the money (or getting too much change at a store or the cage).

As for Karma, JuJu, Religion, conscience, and the Golden Rule all I have to say is: what goes around comes around.