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Old 07-17-2007, 12:11 AM
pokerplayer1 pokerplayer1 is offline
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Default KK with a deep stack. $600NL

I have no stats for villain (Brent).
A few hands earlier a shorty limped in EP. Brent raised his ATo in LP. Flop is 225r. EP leads into him for about 2/5 pot. Brent pushes allin. Shorty calls for his 25bb stack with 99.
This is all the info I had on Brent.


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Texas Hold'em $6-$6 NL (Real Money),


Seat 2: Brent UNIT ($1,214.90 in chips)
Seat 3: stunyenoH ($592.80 in chips)
Seat 4: Hero ($1,063.85 in chips)



ANTES/BLINDS
Brent UNIT posts blind ($3), stunyenoH posts blind ($6).

PRE-FLOP
Hero bets $21, Brent UNIT bets $33, stunyenoH folds, Hero bets $102, Brent UNIT calls $87.

FLOP [board cards 3C,QC,6S ]
Brent UNIT checks, Hero bets $175, Brent UNIT bets $350, Hero calls $175.

TURN [board cards 3C,QC,6S,8S ]
Brent UNIT checks, Hero checks.

RIVER [board cards 3C,QC,6S,8S,9H ]
Brent UNIT bets $300, Hero?


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On flop, he mincrs me. This could be massive strength, but can I really fold here? He could be making a random bluff or playing a hand strangely.

He checks the turn - this could be for deception or it could just be a sign of weakness. Maybe he has AK or AQ?

On the river, he bets 1/3 pot. Can I fold now or do I need way more reads?
I only need to be good 25% of the time here to win. It could be a bet begging to be called or it could also be a blocking type bet/cheap bluff.

Is my pf reraise OK? I give lower pairs about 9 to 1 to stack me. Is a raise to about 120 better? This is minor anyway I think. I don't lose too much by raising slightly lesss here.

The hands I'm worried about are AA and QQ. Both fit villain's line. And probably fit it best. Did I play the hand bad?

I actually won the hand. My friend thought I played it super bad though. Don't be results orientated.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:13 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: KK with a deep stack. $600NL

I'm checking this flop.
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:17 AM
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Default Re: KK with a deep stack. $600NL

push turn. or flop, whatever.

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I actually won the hand. My friend thought I played it super bad though. Don't be results orientated.

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dont include results
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Old 07-17-2007, 12:25 AM
teh_mewse teh_mewse is offline
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Default Re: KK with a deep stack. $600NL

preflop is just terrible. Your betting size makes it correct for him to call with any pocket pair.

Now on the flop you have to deal with the certainty that he is probably set mining. As played i shove the flop and hope he has a club draw or AQ. Judging by his preflop raise, he's a donk and would commit with AQ here. Also a chance he's donk float raising you with a smaller pp.

Cliffnotes: As played, you have to stack off if he hit set. Its your own fault because you gave him proper implieds.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:58 AM
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As played, you have to stack off if he hit set. Its your own fault because you gave him proper implieds.


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this is poor reasoning.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:30 AM
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Default Re: KK with a deep stack. $600NL

i dont see how you dont shove the flop.. once you called the flop raise what did you plan on doing?
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:19 AM
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Default Re: KK with a deep stack. $600NL

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I'm checking this flop.

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not vs this villan and I hate free cards in big pots.

Im assuming he's a fish after the small re-raise preflop, so making it 87 more isn't terrible, but make it 5x his bet b/c your deep.

After the preflop and flop action your not folding with half your stack in, simple. Pushing the flop or calling/shoving any turn is ok, depends what you think will get the most value.

Did he have a missed draw or AK?
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:20 AM
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http://legopoker.com/hh/index.php
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Old 07-17-2007, 03:24 AM
teh_mewse teh_mewse is offline
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As played, you have to stack off if he hit set. Its your own fault because you gave him proper implieds.


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this is poor reasoning.

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with poor play sometimes you're only left with poor decisions. I believe mine is the lesser of two evils
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:28 AM
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Default Re: KK with a deep stack. $600NL

i gave him too big implied odds. you're right.

i lied about winning the hand. he had QQ
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