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Old 07-16-2007, 09:39 AM
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Default Re: JTs Flops OESD in Reraised Pot

if he folds to a flop cb then you should be able to pick it up on a later street. if he dosnt fold to a cb then its going to cost you a stack with a draw (meh), but if that is the case, you can see a free card and if you hit stack him anyway.
id check behind here and depending on turn card either put out a "please call me bet" on the turn, fold or shove over a block bet. depends on the card and what he does.
flop cb here sucks
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: JTs Flops OESD in Reraised Pot

I always c-bet this cuz I never make straights.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:26 AM
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Default Re: JTs Flops OESD in Reraised Pot

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if he folds to a flop cb then you should be able to pick it up on a later street. if he dosnt fold to a cb then its going to cost you a stack with a draw (meh), but if that is the case, you can see a free card and if you hit stack him anyway.
id check behind here and depending on turn card either put out a "please call me bet" on the turn, fold or shove over a block bet. depends on the card and what he does.
flop cb here sucks

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Old 07-16-2007, 10:27 AM
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Default Re: JTs Flops OESD in Reraised Pot

1.) easy cb
2.) no reason to RR in position here
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:33 AM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: JTs Flops OESD in Reraised Pot

The more I think about it the more I like checking the flop and betting the turn. I just don't find taggish players:
a) bet the turn as bluffs in re-raised pots after I check the flop, since they think I'm likely to check the turn with monsters.
b) call me lighter on the turn (I bet $36, the standard c-bet I would have make with for example 66 on the flop), because of the same reasoning as in a).

This means we get 1 card for free, we don't have a close decision on the turn if c/r and we'll win the pot against TT/QJs about as often as if we bet the flop. Btw I check the flop often with AK too.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:36 AM
Jay Riall Jay Riall is offline
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Default Re: JTs Flops OESD in Reraised Pot

Bet-fold, this flop has a fair bit of FE. I prefer to call preflop aswell.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: JTs Flops OESD in Reraised Pot

Checking is good or I'd bet about 30. I doubt he's c/raising here no matter what he has. He probably feels he's WA/WB so he'll call or fold. If he does shove I'd fold. Your J or T would be no good and he would likely have one of your outs with AK/AQ or have a redraw with QQ. If he calls, you get a free card. But I don't mind checking either.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:54 AM
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Default Re: JTs Flops OESD in Reraised Pot

Betting this gets you a free card and a chance to take it down from TT/99/JJ sometimes. I'd lead 30 and check behind on the turn if we don't hit.
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Old 07-16-2007, 11:12 AM
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1.) easy cb
2.) no reason to RR in position here

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Old 07-16-2007, 11:23 AM
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Default Re: JTs Flops OESD in Reraised Pot

To those who are stating that this is a very easy cbet. I'm not so sure you're considering his range here. When he shoves, we have less that 30% equity most of the time.
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