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Old 07-16-2007, 02:49 AM
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Default 25NL - 2Pair on Flop Gets Raised on River, Line Check

FTP 6-handed, no reads on villain.

Hero dealt A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

MP and Button limps, I complete in the SB, BB checks. Villains are usual passive calling stations preflop at this level.

Flop is A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Hero thinks for a bit then checks, intending to C-R. I was confused w/ this decision after the fact. Is it standard to lead here or C-R? Which is best?

Everyone insta-checks around, I dunno if my thinking for a bit had any influence on this.

Turn K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet .80 into .95. MP insta calls. SB and button folds.

River Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

I bet $2 into $2.5. Villain raises to $6. Hero?

I beat a decent amount here, but w/ no reads on river I'm not sure if he'd bluff raise a flush draw (unlikely) or raise a worse two pair here. I thought this was unlikely and thought he had JT here w/ a double gutter on the turn. Am I ahead of a decent enough range here to make the call?
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:05 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2Pair on Flop Gets Raised on River, Line Check

Call. He could have JT of course, but He probably has a lower two pair (KQ?). He could very likely raise this since you have under-repped your hand and he might think it unlikely that you have an A.
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:20 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2Pair on Flop Gets Raised on River, Line Check

This is 25NL though, how often are villains even thinking on the second level?
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:23 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2Pair on Flop Gets Raised on River, Line Check

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This is 25NL though, how often are villains even thinking on the second level?

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Even more reason to call. Villain thinks, ZOMG I HAVE TWO PAIRZ, RAIZ IT UP w/out giving a second thought to your cards.

You lose to 88, 77, JT
You beat 78, K8, K7, Q8, Q7, QK
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:25 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2Pair on Flop Gets Raised on River, Line Check

What about the flop?

Effective stacks are 100BB btw
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Old 07-16-2007, 03:28 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2Pair on Flop Gets Raised on River, Line Check

Lead out on the flop. With 3 other villains in there, I'd rather start building the pot while protecting my hand.
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:09 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2Pair on Flop Gets Raised on River, Line Check

Lead full pot on the flop, people raise all the time with tpnk, draws etc. You need to start building a pot. If you cr people tend to go into call down mode. And it might get checked thru. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:24 AM
P.h.i.l.e.a.s. P.h.i.l.e.a.s. is offline
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Default Re: 25NL - 2Pair on Flop Gets Raised on River, Line Check

I would bet two thirds to Potsize at flop. NL25 FDs will pay a lot to stay in. Str8 draws, low aces, even second pair are hands that are also possible and will maybe pay your flopbet.
River is imo a instacall (see procrasts answer)..
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: 25NL - 2Pair on Flop Gets Raised on River, Line Check

Lead the flop, because of FD/SD, bet turn. As played I'd call river. He could have slowplayed a set/bigger 2 pair or hit a str8. There are a lot of hands that you beat here though, and your getting 2.5-1 here on river call.
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