50NL; KK in 3 bet pot gets CRAI by nit TAG on Jd3dTh flop

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range is JJ, TT, AKhh, QQ

we're ahead 48/52 against that range


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what about aa or kk

[jonyy6788]

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Your flop bet is way too small.

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Disagree. This is a 3bet pot (a big one at that) and my flop bet is 2/3 pot.

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2nded

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Your flop bet is way too small.


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WHY

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board is wet );

[jonyy6788]

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range is JJ, TT, AKhh, QQ

we're ahead 48/52 against that range


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what about aa or kk

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miniscule chance of KK, most likely plays AA fast PF

also, KK doesn't change equity DUCY?

[jonyy6788]

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Your flop bet is way too small.


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WHY

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board is wet );

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regardless we're not gonna have any money behind on the turn to make a [censored] bit of difference and his range is pretty narrow

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Your flop bet is way too small.


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WHY

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I exaggerated. I would make it a litle more like $14. It's drawy which increases likelihood of villian raising and makes it easier for us to 3-bet all in.

[Lego05]

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call

you have about 35% equity here against his range.

range i used: TT+,AdKd,AdQd

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This I think I can agree with. The question for me is how often he does this with QQ.

With all QQ combos:

20,790 games 0.005 secs 4,158,000 games/sec

Board: Jd 3d Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 38.062% 35.77% 02.29% 7436 477.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 61.938% 59.64% 02.29% 12400 477.00 { AA, KcKd, QQ, JcJh, JcJs, JhJs, TcTd, TcTs, TdTs, AdKd, AdQd }


With 66% of QQ combos:

18,810 games 0.005 secs 3,762,000 games/sec

Board: Jd 3d Th
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.812% 30.28% 02.54% 5695 477.00 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 67.188% 64.65% 02.54% 12161 477.00 { AA, KcKd, QcQs, QdQh, QdQs, QhQs, JcJh, JcJs, JhJs, TcTd, TcTs, TdTs, AdKd, AdQd }

[Lego05]

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range is JJ, TT, AKhh, QQ

we're ahead 48/52 against that range


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what about aa or kk

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miniscule chance of KK, most likely plays AA fast PF

also, KK doesn't change equity DUCY?

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There is only one possible KK combo and it doesn't really change much. However, I feel that a lot of players would definitely take this line with AA and it should be included in the range. this is more or less how I used to play AA when I got 3bet: Call and CRAI on flop. (Nowadays though I would 4bet pre-flop.)

[derosnec]

sometimes he has a set. ok. but it's not that big of a deal, because you already put in 40% of your stack. so, when you fold, you are not saving that much money really.

edit: what i'm saying is there is a difference between that super drawy flop where you bet the flop and a flop like Q62r where you check and are facing an all in.

[eddieP]

damn i'd INSTACALL