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#11
07-15-2007, 10:30 PM
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Re: Two pair in the Big Blind... line evaluation
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Yea this is not a spot where you would want to wait until the turn to c/r. As played when SB donks the turn you should raise him too. [/ QUOTE ] as simple as that, the preflop call was bad the flop call even worse and the turn even worse still, do you have any balls atall ??? 
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#13
07-15-2007, 10:52 PM
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Re: Two pair in the Big Blind... line evaluation
there will come a point in your life when you will realize that flopped top two pair is nowhere near the nuts. top and bottom pair is a drawing hand, and bottom two if you get called you are pretty much drawing dead.
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#14
07-15-2007, 11:37 PM
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Re: Two pair in the Big Blind... line evaluation
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there will come a point in your life when you will realize that flopped top two pair is nowhere near the nuts. top and bottom pair is a drawing hand, and bottom two if you get called you are pretty much drawing dead. [/ QUOTE ] who said it was the nuts ? your right two pair is vulnerable but with that table and action i would say its very likely to be ahead so you should raise it...... simple PS u are very rarely drawing dead with two pair when the board isnt paired
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#15
07-15-2007, 11:51 PM
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Re: Two pair in the Big Blind... line evaluation
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[ QUOTE ] Yea this is not a spot where you would want to wait until the turn to c/r. As played when SB donks the turn you should raise him too. [/ QUOTE ] as simple as that, the preflop call was bad the flop call even worse and the turn even worse still, do you have any balls atall ??? [/ QUOTE ] Folding preflop would be a crime getting 5-1 with this hand and a superfish in the pot.
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#16
07-15-2007, 11:57 PM
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Re: Two pair in the Big Blind... line evaluation
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I dont fold this pre... leak (what do u call with here sethy and mvoss)? do u call if we switch villains stats or did it have nothing at all to do with this? [/ QUOTE ] Seth and mvoss are on drugs. Folding preflop here is a clear mistake in my mind. Like I said in my other post. Getting 5-1 with this hand, with perfect relative position, with a superfish in the pot, makes this a very profitable call. Can I prove this? No. Will I ever fold here? No. Do I like money? Yes.
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#18
07-16-2007, 12:35 AM
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Re: Two pair in the Big Blind... line evaluation
Preflop is a call.
Flop is a check/raise. Turn is a raise. River is fine.
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#19
07-16-2007, 04:47 AM
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Re: Two pair in the Big Blind... line evaluation
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Seth and mvoss are on drugs. Folding preflop here is a clear mistake in my mind. Like I said in my other post. Getting 5-1 with this hand, with perfect relative position, with a superfish in the pot, makes this a very profitable call. Can I prove this? No. Will I ever fold here? No. Do I like money? Yes. [/ QUOTE ] Am I on drugs? No. Do I like money? Yes. Do I think I can play this hand profitably postflop? No. Do I think better players than me should call here? Yes. Judging from the way OP played this hand there is no way he should be calling preflop here either. Sorry if that was a bit harsh.
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#20
07-16-2007, 04:55 AM
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Re: Two pair in the Big Blind... line evaluation
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Do I think better players than me should call here? Yes. [/ QUOTE ] Is ILP one of those players? uh, hell no? And OP, wtf are you doing? You have two people committed on the flop with a good hand, just c/r the flop. I'm actually done ranting, hit the ****ing raise button sometime. I call PF, and I fold my BB to steals about 84% of the time [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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