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#281
07-15-2007, 07:01 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 6, Sun., July 15**
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On average, Viets are the greatest poker players in the world. [/ QUOTE ] It's because any "Nguyen" has a 5% edge in coin flip situations. It's like a dynasty name for poker players. 
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#283
07-15-2007, 07:04 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 6, Sun., July 15**
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Has anyone else noticed that with 3 tables left we still have 3 Vietnamese players. On average, Viets are the greatest poker players in the world. [/ QUOTE ] 1) You're stupid 2) donkaments aren't real poker
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#284
07-15-2007, 07:05 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 6, Sun., July 15**
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[ QUOTE ] Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kenny Tran Wins a 2.21 Million Pot Against Tuan Lam At the Featured Table, Tuan Lam raises under the gun to 250,000, and Kenny Tran calls from the big blind. The flop comes {K-Clubs}{8-Clubs}{3-Diamonds}, and both players check. The turn card is the {J-Spades}, Tran bets 300,000, and Lam calls. The river card is the {6-Spades}, Tran checks, Lam bets 500,000, and Tran calls. Lam shows {Q-Clubs}{10-Clubs} for queen high, and Tran shows {J-Hearts}{10-Hearts} for a pair of jacks. Kenny Tran wins the pot worth 2.21 million in chips. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wow Lam misplayed that hand completely [/ QUOTE ] Can we say results oriented???? you mean he didnt raise then get reraised and have to fold his flush draw? Kenny took a stab with nothing got called and was probably done, but got lucky and hit a two outer to pull ahead and Tuan wanted to keep the pot small in case Kenny flopped huge....Looks standard from here. [/ QUOTE ] When did Kenny "take a stab with nothing and get caught"? If the quoted summary is correct, Tran checked the flop, at which point Lam decided not to make the continuation bet (unless you're contending that Tran was planning a bluff C/R on the flop). The turn card gave Tran the best hand, but it also gave Lam a monster draw, which he for some reason chose to play passively. Then after missing the draw, he decided to bluff the river, even though there was no hand he could credibly represent, which left Kenny with a pretty easy call.
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#285
07-15-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 6, Sun., July 15**
30 Big blinds is SHORT STACKED. 200 Big blinds is DEEP STACKED. I'm pretty confident half the players discussing strategy here don't have any real concept of how you should play stacks as they move from 200bb to 10bb deep.
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#286
07-15-2007, 07:07 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 6, Sun., July 15**
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If you Google "Rain Khan" you'll read his amazing story of playing up to 43 single-table sit-and-goes at once and getting banned by Poker Stars as a "bot." [/ QUOTE ] Over/under on the number of simultaneous SnGs he will be reported as have played by the time FT rolls around?
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#287
07-15-2007, 07:08 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 6, Sun., July 15**
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] We saw this effect last year, people with VERY deep stacks relative to the blinds (30 BB +) getting all in preflop with marginal type hands (AJo, 66, etc.) [/ QUOTE ] 30 BB's is not even close to deep, much less 'very deep'. [/ QUOTE ] It's not deep. But, it's deep enough so that you can just call the standard 3xBB pre-flop raise with some marginal hands rather than pushing all-in with them. [/ QUOTE ] At 30 BB's and with antes, your M is about 10. Time to start making moves of your own. [/ QUOTE ] 1.) The antes are huge in the ME, so if we're going to discuss strategy please use M (as above) 2.) With M=10, calling a raise is generally a real bad idea unless somebody donkraises and you are in the BB getting odds. Reraise or fold. 3.) With M=10, you generally want to be conservative, not "making moves". Lecture over. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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#288
07-15-2007, 07:10 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 6, Sun., July 15**
misread...kenny bet turn not flop still not the worst play to play your draw cheap...the river bluff may have been ill timed, but may have gotten Kenny to fold A high. true though he prob should have just given up, but when Kenny turns over 34c or A5c then Tuan gonna regret not putting in a small bet.
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#289
07-15-2007, 07:11 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 6, Sun., July 15**
For the record Dynasty is wrong
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#290
07-15-2007, 07:11 PM
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Re: ** WSOP ME, $10,000 NLHE, Day 6, Sun., July 15**
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The rake comes out of the prize pool, not the chip stacks. Harrah's keeps 4.2% and 1.8% is set aside for the tournament staff. So with 6,358 entries, Harrah's gets $2.67mil, the tournament staff get $1.14mil. The net is $59,784,954 for the players. [/ QUOTE ] The IRS and local state taxes get another 40-50%. Nice of the players to get together and pool all that money for them isn't it.
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