my first poker books

[magx]

Ok I play poker for few years now but allways as an amateur. I decided I want to change to more professional way So I want to read some books(start my own poker libarey hehe). Here is what i thought about start with(in that oreder) :
1. Getting Started in Holdem, by Ed Miller
2.Little Black Book, by Gordon
3. Little Green Book, by Gordon
4. Texas Holdem Odds and Probabilities, by Hilger
5. Killer Poker, by Vorhaus
6. Killer Poker No Limit, by Vorhaus
7. Little Blue Book, by Gordon
8. Killer Poker by the Numbers, by Guerrera
9. Why you lose at poker, by Fox and Harper
and only then move to the more advanced books like TOP, HOH and so on ,,,

what do you think about my first books and the order im about to read them ?
I play mostly no limit holdem sng's.

thx

[phydaux]

1. Getting Started in Holdem, by Ed Miller Good choice. Excellent first book.
2.Little Black Book, by Gordon Skip this one. Worthless.
3. Little Green Book, by Gordon Good choice for a second book.
4. Texas Holdem Odds and Probabilities, by Hilger Put this one away for later. MUCH later.
5. Killer Poker, by Vorhaus Skip this one. It's on limit hold'em.
6. Killer Poker No Limit, by Vorhaus This is for no limit cash games. You can skip it.
7. Little Blue Book, by Gordon OK book. Green was better.
8. Killer Poker by the Numbers, by Guerrera I HATED this book. Hilger's is better, but you don't need to read either of them at this point in your development.
9. Why you lose at poker, by Fox and Harper An OK book, but not specificly a hold'em SnG book. You can skip it if you like.

The books that are missing from your list are Kill Phil, and Harrington on Hold'em vol I-III.

In fact, if the only poker books you ever read were Getting Started in Hold'em, Little Green Book, Kill Phil and the Harringtons, you would start crushing the on-line SnGs before too long.

[deacsoft]

Getting Started in Hold'em is a good book that mostly covers limit hold'em ring games. However, there is a no-limit section that you might find useful.

Little Black Book is probably not needed.

Little Green Book covers some good stuff but is written for multi-table tournaments. You may find some of Gordon's thoughts and plays helpful. It's a quick, easy read so it's worth it.

Texas Hold'em Odds and Probabilities is one I have not read yet.

Killer Poker... I would pass on all of them.

Little Blue Book is probably not as valuable as Little Green Book. It's a collection of multi-table tournament hands that Gordon breaks down and analyzes. You might find some of the insight helpful in getting you think more deeply about the hands you play and observe. Again, it's a quick, easy read so it's worth it.

Why You Lose at Poker is one that I own but have not yet had a chance to read. I may be wrong but I believe it's geared towards limit hold'em.

TOP and the HOH series are very valuable. They may not be as advanced (as far as reading and understanding) as you might think. I highly recommend them.

You can also keep your eyes open for 2+2's first title on Sit'n'Gos specifically. The title is Sit 'n Go Strategy and was written by Collin Moshman. There are a few threads already going on this book. See those threads for more details. I believe this book will be excellent.

I also highly suggest taking full advantage of our STT Strategy forum.

[deacsoft]

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The books that are missing from your list are Kill Phil...

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Because I like you I won't do it, but I was just going to say, "anyone who suggests Kill Phil will be banned for 3 days".

[magx]

If a book is about no limit cash games i think its ok cuz i play some of theise type of game too and i think most things you can use on sng too.
anyway why dont you like killer poker ? heared a greate reviews on them for beginers(since their not so complex as TOP etc...).

[magx]

i would also like to know what do you think should be my first 10 books and in what order ? Im mostly play no limit sng's online(and some no limit cash games).

thx again

[Gelford]

Get LBG and the SNG book from Collin Moshman, drop the rest.

[BritNewbie]

No book about poker can be described as <u>totally</u> useless if only because reading it will make you think about the game.

But KILLER POKER comes close in my opinion.

Leave it off your list and replace it with one of the others that people have recommended.

Good Luck.

[phydaux]

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The books that are missing from your list are Kill Phil...

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Because I like you I won't do it, but I was just going to say, "anyone who suggests Kill Phil will be banned for 3 days".

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deca,

I'm not a tourney player at all really, just NL cash, but I thought Kill Phil was suppose to be close to optimum for tourneys, particularly as you get close to the bubble and after.

Is this no longer conventional wisdom?

Granted in the early stages of a MTT there will be a period when stacks are deep relative to the blinds, and a more conventional style will be appropriate. But as blinds get high (or stacks get low) isn't jam poker the way to go?

I'll let the MTT &amp; SnG specialist take it from here.

[magx]

Ok thx anyone now i need your help on getting a list of 7-10 first books. There is anyone here who read a lot of books and can help me ? As I told you I play mostly online no limit sng and some live no limit with low blinds. I need both math and theory fundamental cuz i dont have any of them(just few moth's/years of amateur playing). Any help could be greate.

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p.s
another thing i would like to know is this "Professional No-Limit Hold 'em" 2+2 going to publish at the 20th is "easyer" then ToP and those outher 2+2 books ? I mean is it for more beginner players ?