theoretical issue No1

[Jack-in-a-box]

HI, I've got one theroretical issue and I'm posting it here, because i know that alot of posters now the math well at this forum, and I have a lot of problems with theory by now.

So, all nine players have equal stacks of 1500, blinds are 10/20, it's folded to you in MP and you limp with A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], all other players fold to the BB who checks.

The flop comes J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], BB checks, you bet 50 trying to steal the pot, BB calls (now there is 150 in the pot).

Turn brings T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], so you've got the A-high straight.

Then suddenly, BB pushes and accidently [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] flips the cards face up. You see: A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], so he's got the straight as you have, and the nut flush draw.

Question: is it is still right to call a push in 150 pot, knowing that at best you will tie, and in the worst scenario you will lose all your chips to the flush? If it's not right, then how much chips must be in the pot, and how much you need to call in this pot to make this call correct?

Maybe this is a very easy situation, but I'm zero in math, and all comments are appreciated!

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[Pokerfarian]

Board: Ks Qh Jd Td
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.227% 20.45% 39.77% 9 17.50 { Ad2d }
Hand 1: 39.773% 00.00% 39.77% 0 17.50 { Ac8s }


If you fold you have 1430. That is better than ~40% equity in a 3010 pot. If 800 were magically added to the pot, then 40% of 3810 > 1430 so call is best.

[hamnegger]

not correct you can call if he doubles it no more

[ZoolooZ]

This has to be a fold with this little invested, if you are a good player then im sure this small loss in chips will not affect you in future hands.

[rakemeplz]

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Board: Ks Qh Jd Td
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.227% 20.45% 39.77% 9 17.50 { Ad2d }
Hand 1: 39.773% 00.00% 39.77% 0 17.50 { Ac8s }


If you fold you have 1430. That is better than ~40% equity in a 3010 pot. If 800 were magically added to the pot, then 40% of 3810 > 1430 so call is best.

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Uhh, he has 40% equity in the hand and is facing a huuuuge overbet so it is an insta/easy fold.

[sah_24]

yea ur equity is small at 40 percent and the pot is nothin right now no way u can call. U need close to 1000 more in there to make the call close to legit

[Pokerfarian]

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Board: Ks Qh Jd Td
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.227% 20.45% 39.77% 9 17.50 { Ad2d }
Hand 1: 39.773% 00.00% 39.77% 0 17.50 { Ac8s }


If you fold you have 1430. That is better than ~40% equity in a 3010 pot. If 800 were magically added to the pot, then 40% of 3810 > 1430 so call is best.

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Uhh, he has 40% equity in the hand and is facing a huuuuge overbet so it is an insta/easy fold.

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Did you even read my post? I said folding was best

[levAA]

Board: Jd Qh Ks Td
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 39.773% 00.00% 39.77% 0 17.50 { Ac8s }
Hand 1: 60.227% 20.45% 39.77% 9 17.50 { Ad2d }

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Case 1 you fold.
You have 1430

Case 2 you call.
20% you loose and are out.
80% split pot and you have 1515 - Expectation: 1212

So this is a very clear fold