Nature vs. nurture/talent vs. hard work

[riskofruin]

I just wanted to throw this question out there..

What percentage of being a big winner in poker (maybe modest to some of you, but by big winner I'm thinking six-figures+ winnings per year), is talent and what part is hard work? To rephrase, do you think there is a certain minimum amount of "talent" with cards that you must have in order to be big winner? Is a player's potential for success in poker innate, or is it mainly limited by the amount of time someone is willing to put into the game?

[stan ivey]

6 figures isnt HSNL anymore ....you can make 6 figures grinding 2/4

[sMethod]

Some people are born and raised to be scared of life, fearlessness is a vital part to any great HSNL players game, not to be timid is a hard thing to teach people once its been bread into them, past the age of 18 like this and its usually too late for you. These type of players evolve into nits and will never thrive at a bigger game because fear is holding them back from being aggressive as they need to be.

Me on the other hand... born to be a champion raised with my butt in the seat of a race car, poker bores me compared to a race track.

[LuckyLucky]

Even if that was a joke, you sound like a huge donk.

[itWASaDREAM]

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Me on the other hand... born to be a champion raised with my butt in the seat of a race car, poker bores me compared to a race track.

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did anyone else puke after reading this?

I think to beat big games people are going to have to be talented. I think that you would have to be prone to cards because a lot of these games are about evolving to the players, and I dont really think that can be taught.

I'm sure that you can teach almost any competent person to beat mid stakes games as high as 3/6 for a decent win rate.

[DJ Sensei]

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I'm sure that you can teach almost any competent person to beat mid stakes games as high as 3/6 for a decent win rate.

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honestly i don't think so, unless by "competent" you mean experienced with actively using game theory, i.e. played lots of strategy games at a young age or had the mindset to do so. Pick your average dude off a street corner, I doubt they could beat NL100 without months of training and practice.

As for higher stakes games, I think it takes lots of both experience and natural intuition for game theory, both mathematical and practical.

[myke11]

+ you have to be alittle bit sick