Bad "rakeback" at pokerstars for PLO 6-max players?

[jige]

I have kind of a small database so this might not be aqurate.

On PLO100 6-max im getting from my database (around 5K hands only) that 55% of the hands gives 1 FPP and 15% of the hands gives 1 extra FPP, that gives 1 hand = ~0.7 VPP.

At the supernova level 1 hand = 2.45 FPP. A 1500$ bonus costs 100 000 FPP. That bonus takes 41 000 hands to get.

In my databse my rake is 15$/100 hands. That is 6150$ in rake during the time it takes to get the 1500$ bonus.

That gives a rakeback at ~24%.


Have I calculated wrong or does PLO 6-max players get kind of low value back from pokerstars? [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[Ribbo]

You're forgetting to factor in the free $80 equity you get from the tournament weekly freeroll.

[tautomer]

6 max definitely calculates out to a lower "rakeback" than full ring. You get to the bonus a little bit faster (more VPPs/hand and hands/hr) but have to pay significantly more rake along the way. But hey, $1500 is $1500. I'll take it.

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You're forgetting to factor in the free $80 equity you get from the tournament weekly freeroll.

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Joke?

[Ribbo]

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You're forgetting to factor in the free $80 equity you get from the tournament weekly freeroll.

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Joke?

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No. Serious.
Each week the freerolls at supernova level are worth around $80. If you qualify after 6 months that means $2000 worth of freerolls for the rest of the year (not including the monthly).
It would be foolish to ignore that off any calculations. It clearly should be relevant.

[Slap My Jack]

You still have to waste your time by being online at those times and playing out tourneys to cash in on that equity. And I think that's a big deal, especially for a cash game player to have to take equity in a game that isn't their own.

If you're on during that time playing, then the time issue is more of a sunk cost and it's not a big deal.

Overall, Stars "rakeback" system is so non-liquid that it's just a bad deal unless you play tons (reach supernova) and are a dedicated Stars player.

[Ribbo]

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You still have to waste your time by being online at those times and playing out tourneys to cash in on that equity. And I think that's a big deal, especially for a cash game player to have to take equity in a game that isn't their own.

If you're on during that time playing, then the time issue is more of a sunk cost and it's not a big deal.

Overall, Stars "rakeback" system is so non-liquid that it's just a bad deal unless you play tons (reach supernova) and are a dedicated Stars player.

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[Etats360]

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You still have to waste your time by being online at those times and playing out tourneys to cash in on that equity. And I think that's a big deal, especially for a cash game player to have to take equity in a game that isn't their own.

If you're on during that time playing, then the time issue is more of a sunk cost and it's not a big deal.

Overall, Stars "rakeback" system is so non-liquid that it's just a bad deal unless you play tons (reach supernova) and are a dedicated Stars player.

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[Ribbo]

[/ QUOTE ]do you really wear all those Pokerstars clothes?

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Damn straight I do, as you can read about when Pokerstars interviewed me earlier this year.
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Usually it's one of the caps i'm wearing each day, but I quite like the leather jacket also, and the rugby shirts are awesome!

[jbird]

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