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Old 07-14-2007, 08:41 AM
SidneyDeane SidneyDeane is offline
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Default Ethics/Morality

First off, sorry if this is the wrong section to be posting an ethical decision I was faced with today in a B&M casino.

Second, this is my first post so thank you for your replys.

Ok now to the dilemma. I was playing 4-8(half kill) omaha hi/lo at a casino in LV. I was being called down by a guy who was seminew to the game and it came to the river which counterfeited my high hand on the pot. The board was A-10-7-5-10. I held A-2-3-7 and the gentleman held A-Q-J-4. Both he and the dealer misread their hand on the river thinking my A-7 played as the high. No one at the table said anything and the dealer begin to make a motion to flip over my competitors hand. Input on whether to say anything or not? Is it immoral/unethical? Thank you
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:49 AM
sirtimo sirtimo is offline
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You both tabled you hands. Cards speak.

Don't be a douche and try to take a pot that isn't yours. Speak up and correct the dealer. Karma is a bitch.
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:03 AM
Dranoel Dranoel is offline
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I prefer to be honest and I like good karma.

I would not angleshoot (because the dealer misread the board)- I'd read the board properly (especially if this is a place you play a lot). You'll get a better reputation & you were true to the game.

/I'm sure others will disagree- maybe even OP, but that's just me.
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:54 AM
LuckyTxGuy LuckyTxGuy is offline
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I just said this in another thread and it applies here again, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:30 AM
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yea, speak up. Once you start thinking this is ok, you'll keep taking steps in thinking other things are ok, then you'll become an angleshooter that everyone hates.

you legitimately won have the pot and he gets half the pot.
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Old 07-14-2007, 10:40 AM
pariah8 pariah8 is offline
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Besides it being the right thing to do, the extra 25 dollars is not worth the image degradation. Other people at the table might not speak up but some noticed and no one likes to play with a person they perceive as an angle shooter. The honesty might just get you a little action at the table later.
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Old 07-14-2007, 11:26 AM
SmartBugger SmartBugger is offline
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Nobody llikes an angleshooter and you defidently don't want that reputation. Let the guy take the pot.... he won it fairly .
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Old 07-14-2007, 02:15 PM
Cornell Fiji Cornell Fiji is offline
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Since you titled this post Ethics/Morality then karma should be irrelevant as you only care about what is right.

The fact that nobody likes an angleshooter is also irrelevant.

-Do you live your life by the maxim that taking that which belongs to someone else is wrong?
-Does the high half of this pot belong to someone else?
-What should you do?

If you care about the ethics of the situation the resolution should be clear under pretty much any moral code.

Welcome to the forums,
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Old 07-14-2007, 04:10 PM
ClubChamp04 ClubChamp04 is offline
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I don't think you need that $40 pot that bad do you? Speak up and be a man, its not your money.
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:18 PM
LuckyTxGuy LuckyTxGuy is offline
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Default Re: Ethics/Morality

I just left the poker room to come up to the hotel room for a few minutes and on the way up here my buddy had a chance to do something similar.

We were cashing out and he gave the clerk at the cage $65 in chips. She counted out the $65 in chips then proceeded to put 2 $100 bills plus the $65 in cash out and pushed it to him. We both looked at the money and were pretty much stunned. He immediately spoke up and said, "ma'am you better recount that, I only gave you $65." She gasp and thanked him a couple times and said she could loose her job for something like that. To her credit, it was very busy and she was obviously rushed. We walked off and he said, "I'm down $100 but I couldn't live with myself getting it back that way."

The feeling you get for doing the right thing is a whole lot better than the feeling you get when you steal.
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