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Old 07-14-2007, 07:09 AM
martindavies1982 martindavies1982 is offline
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Default $4.40 MTT. Q7in bb. am i really behind here? Is this a fold?

Just moved to this table so no reads. Did i play this correct?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
9 players
Converter


Stack sizes:
UTG: t1730
UTG+1: t2520
MP1: t3070
MP2: t2000
MP3: t1068
CO: t2372
Button: t3505
SB: t1275
Hero: t2890


Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls t30 (pot was t45), MP1 calls t30 (pot was t75), MP2 calls t30 (pot was t105), MP3 folds, CO calls t30 (pot was t135), Button calls t30 (pot was t165), SB calls t15 (pot was t195), Hero checks.


Flop: K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t210, 7 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, CO checks, Button checks.


Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t210, 7 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t150, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls t150 (pot was t360), MP2 calls t150 (pot was t510), CO folds, Button calls t150 (pot was t660), SB folds.


River: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t810, 4 players)
Hero bets t240, MP1 raises to t810, MP2 calls t810 (pot was t1860), Button raises to t1380, Hero raises all-in t2710, MP1 raises all-in t2890, MP2 calls all-in t1010, Button calls t1510 (pot was t8800).


Results:
Final pot: t10230
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:14 AM
woohoo88 woohoo88 is offline
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Default Re: $4.40 MTT. Q7in bb. am i really behind here? Is this a fold?

Bet more on the river. Get the rest in on any raise. You are ahead of plenty of hands that look you up here.


Don't be results oriented just because someone had KQ this time.
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:18 AM
martindavies1982 martindavies1982 is offline
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Default Re: $4.40 MTT. Q7in bb. am i really behind here? Is this a fold?

Was pretty sure i wasnt against KQ because of the lack of flop betting.

Oh and reason i only bet small on river was to try to get the trip Q's as well as the flush to call (if there was any).
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:31 AM
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Default Re: $4.40 MTT. Q7in bb. am i really behind here? Is this a fold?

looks good for me
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: $4.40 MTT. Q7in bb. am i really behind here? Is this a fold?

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Was pretty sure i wasnt against KQ because of the lack of flop betting.

Oh and reason i only bet small on river was to try to get the trip Q's as well as the flush to call (if there was any).

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Trip Q's/flushes are calling 800 just as often as 240. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if a shove was the most +ev bet to make.
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:36 AM
All_In_Olly All_In_Olly is offline
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Default Re: $4.40 MTT. Q7in bb. am i really behind here? Is this a fold?

At level II in a 4/180 with a full house and that many people going AI you should be extremely happy.

I'd play it the same but I bet more on river, maybe 600, you'll get called with a huge range here.
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:39 AM
martindavies1982 martindavies1982 is offline
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Default Re: $4.40 MTT. Q7in bb. am i really behind here? Is this a fold?

Thanks guys. Advice received. will bet more on river next time. FYI MP1 had KK and was slow playin.
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Old 07-14-2007, 07:46 AM
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Default Re: $4.40 MTT. Q7in bb. am i really behind here? Is this a fold?

only 2 hands beat you here KK, very, very unlikely, and KQ unlikely but possible. I agree that ahigher river bet is more appropriate. Very unlikely you are behind here, I would say that what happened is villian caught a flush and took you raise as representing 3 Qs so he raises over you.
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:45 AM
MJBuddy MJBuddy is offline
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Default Re: $4.40 MTT. Q7in bb. am i really behind here? Is this a fold?

Anyone who slow plays KK here is losing in the long run with premium hands. Basically he played his hand for set value and got lucky at this point. KQ is possible, but I never shy away from hands where case cards are the only hands that beat me.

If KQ is beating me, then pretty much variance just kicked me.

If KK is beating me, then someone pretty much just got really lucky and I got coolered.

But I'm going to get calls from ALL strong Kings, any other Queens and any flushes on this river, and I'm ahead of any other hand enough times to get my money in here.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:21 PM
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Default Re: $4.40 MTT. Q7in bb. am i really behind here? Is this a fold?

I guess one of the other guys had the case Q and one had a flush? Wow what a wild hand. Oh yeah, no way I'm folding this.
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