Why 4 People on 4 different Computers can't have the Same Statistics!!

[Guthrie]

Such a bot would quickly suck up 100% of the money from all pokersites on the planet, net of rake, of course.

[Archon_Wing]

Man..... all those ellipses are....... annoying.

[Lovesantiques]

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If i knew before hand that so many people would "criticize" the validity of whether i have knowledge in the area of (Machine Code)and my obivious spelling errors, i think i would have spent more time trying to present my "thread" in a more formal manner.

I apologize for my lack of Grammar and literal translation of my op and also for anyone that also has knowledge in the (IT/Technical) area would understand that prpgramming is %99 Mathematical logic and has nothing to do with how well you can put a sentence togeather.... Most programmers are very poor in the (literal field) this is why most programs that are writen have to be (debugged) because although most great programmers can calulate on the fly, most have poor literal skills.....



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I have several friends who are expert programmers. They ALL have great writing skills. In fact, if programs were written with anything but exactly the correct syntax and symbols they won't work. Even basic HTML has to be written letter perfect.

[mother_brain]

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program that would run un-attended without assistance on it's own and be profitable

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i skipped the rest of the psycho babble but isn't this a little redundent?

[Josem]

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Why would you need access to an RNG to operate a bot?
If you want to operate a winning bot at no-limit, you do.
Why in the world would you need this?

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If I was going to create a bot, hell yes I would have an RNG built-in - for both limit and no limit. Imagine you are playing against my bot and I have a strong flush draw - based on its read using the PokerTracker DB, it would raise sometimes and call sometimes. Every now and then, throw in some river-bluff check-raises, etc. Enough to keep people honest.

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Yes, that would have an RNG, but it wouldn't have access to (or even need to access) the RNG of the poker site.


The whole theory advanced by the OP is <u>factually wrong</u>, and simply impossible. It shows a fairly basic misunderstanding of online poker RNG techniques.

This is because the leading poker sites use information from user input from the thousands of clients to generate their RNG seeds. Thus, since no one can possibly ever know of the user inputs from every client (eg, mouse movements, key presses, etc.), their RNG seed is essentially unknowable. This is clearly explained at http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/features/security/ and proves that EVEN IF you had access to the source code of the server (let alone the client!) you still wouldn't be able to inspect the RNG seed as it is not generated by the code of the server - it is based upon user inputs.

In contrast, there was a site that formerly used a "normal" RNG generation technique (such as the technique to shuffle the cards MS Windows solitare, for example), and they were cracked by some online (?) magazine (and consequently fixed their software). I don't think they were ever the victim of deliberate, intent-to-steal, fraud. You could probably find their article fairly easily if you tried.

[bosox747]

Pokerstars deal is shady at best, at worst it's fraudulent.

[1huskerfan]

What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[ChipFerFree]

My tummy hurts... ... ... ... ... ...

[ReptileHouse]

Heh. Looks like the ninja bumper struck again.

[Poker_Student]

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it is impossible to program or run bots/bot programs without the source code...

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Is the guy serious [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]