Blind stealing: is it +EV to continue when vilain fires back?

[Kayooo]

I have read Pokey's thread about blind stealing and I am trying to put his advices in motion as best as I can.
There is a problem I am faced to though.
Let's say vilain is 25/13/2 and noted that you are often blind stealing when in position.
You are on the button and raise 4bb with 69 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB folds, Vilain calls.
Flop comes 3 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]2 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Missed it big time.
Vilain checks, and ofc you bet to try to buy the pot by betting 6bb. But then vilain, who doesn't believe you, makes a donk minraise, probably to check if you're just fos.

My problem is: is it +EV to continue in this pot and 3bet or call here?
Of course this would be a probably easy fold in other cases but here, with our raise pf and our bet on flop, would'nt it screw up all our future blind steal to just fold here? No one's probably going to believe us after that.

What would you do here?
Stupid question because obvious fold (no one gives a [censored] of your image at the table they're all unobservant donks!1!) or would you be defending your image?

[Casper05]

you have 69 on a 3J2 flop.

[Kayooo]

I know, and we will most certainly fold this hand before SD.
But my question is: is it better to fold to his minraise right now and show to everyone you're fos or call to let him know he won't make you fold with a minraise and then fold to his bet on turn?

[kekedarius]

Just fold and keep cbetting most flops. You'll have a hand eventually.

[kekedarius]

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I know, and we will most certainly fold this hand before SD.
But my question is: is it better to fold to his minraise right now and show to everyone you're fos or call to let him know he won't make you fold with a minraise and then fold to his bet on turn?

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No. If he keeps minraising you just tighten up your cbet range against him. He'll most likely tighten up his minraise range, and you can loosen up your cbet range against him again.

[kindju]

would you play TP the same way? yes. So he knows you're FOS this time but next time he might try to test you when you have a hand.

[Barrin6]

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Just fold and keep cbetting most flops. You'll have a hand eventually.

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There's a leak in that my friend.

You are making yourself way to easy to hand read.

[Dire]

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Just fold and keep cbetting most flops. You'll have a hand eventually.

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There's a leak in that my friend.

You are making yourself way to easy to hand read.

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Which means just about nothing at SSNL.

Fold the 9 high.

EDIT: In lieu of the above, I also do not agree that this makes you 'way too easy to hand read'. There are plenty of hands that aren't much but that could justify a call (or a reraise if thought he was getting way out of line) - from overcards, to 56s, KTh, stuff like that. But it's just not good poker to make a 'stand' when you're drawing just about dead against the vast majority of your opponent's range that isn't a complete bluff.

[DirteAA]

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Just fold and keep cbetting most flops. You'll have a hand eventually.

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There's a leak in that my friend.

You are making yourself way to easy to hand read.

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Which means just about nothing at SSNL.

Fold the 9 high.

EDIT: In lieu of the above, I also do not agree that this makes you 'way too easy to hand read'. There are plenty of hands that aren't much but that could justify a call (or a reraise if thought he was getting way out of line) - from overcards, to 56s, KTh, stuff like that. But it's just not good poker to make a 'stand' when you're drawing just about dead against the vast majority of your opponent's range that isn't a complete bluff.

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QFT

[TheDivineRod]

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with our raise pf and our bet on flop, would'nt it screw up all our future blind steal to just fold here? No one's probably going to believe us after that.



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I think it would be a good thing if they never believed you had a hand.