SSNL POKER [cheese] thread July - Part 1

[Shizzle12345]

http://www.pokerhand.org/?1255146

HOW.. can this guy make this call.

just called pot flop and turn bet and rivered a set vs My pair of kings.. with a pair of 4's

And he hit his gut shot agaitns my set of queens.

Im tilting so hard. He fking rants in chat now too. stuff like, ship me the money monkey..

Down 4bi on the fker.

[sputnik3000]

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $3/$6 Blinds - 4 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $585.00
BB: $285.00
Hero (UTG): $1,764.60
BTN: $1,607.85

Preflop: Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $85.00</font>, 2 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $306.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $1,607.85</font>, Hero calls $1,301.85

Flop: ($3224.70) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Turn: ($3224.70) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($3224.70) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $3,224.70 ($2 Rake)

BTN had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] and LOST (-$1,607.85)
Hero had A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (two pair, Aces and Sevens) and WON (+$1,614.85)

[Shizzle12345]

IM TILTING SO HARD I LOST 7 FKING BUYINS to one fking fish. JESU fking christ. This is badd. Im down 9 buyins now. I mean, losing SEVEN buyins in 25 FKING minutes to one guy??? Flopping sets straights everything and get htem cracked??

Iv had bad days, but losing it all to one guy, who is just baaaaad, iv never seen that.

in 25 minutes

jesus christ.

someone go take his money from hollywood 100NL pls: negreanutess

[bilbo-san]

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Doesn't look like he'd fold any ace ever, does it?

I don't mind the smaller bets in h1 too much, because he might suddenly get scared of the ace or something if he has like a 6, but in h2 I'd bet at least $125 every time, and I think just mashing the pot button is fine. If he calls $150 half the time he calls $75 both bets are equal EV. I don't think he folds an A that often if you make the bigger bet. After the first hand I even like an overbet shove...

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oviously i'm lacking experience against such calling stations. i'm more used to the type that calls pretty much everything as long as they have a draw, but then folds even to very small riverbets unimproved.


you mean "overbet shove" like betting $549 into a $153 pot?
it would be sweeeet, but i doubt that he would call it, even with two pair...

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Why?!?

Do I need to say it again?

He called $58 with KING [censored] HIGH in the previous pot. KING [censored] HIGH, MAN.

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come on!

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i didn't put him on two pair at all. i thought he had like an 8 or maybe an A without a kicker. whenever he had a decent hand he started betting or raising. here he just called, so i really couldn't put him on a strong hand.

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i actually think it would be -EV to shove that second hand. because he would fold most of the time but obviously call when he rivers a set or something. of course i would have bet more if i KNEW he had two pair. but HOW SHOULD I KNOW? he could have anything there really, just not anything strong. this two pair hand was probably the strongest hand he could possibly have without raising at one point.

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Jig already did the math for you. How often does he need to call $550 for you to make more money than if he calls $75 100% of the time?

Why are you trying to convince yourself that he has exactly 20% of his range and betting so that he will call $75 with that 100% of the time (which, by the way is still too low. This guy calls $100+ with a pair ALL DAY LONG), rather than shoving, and assuming that he'll call with 20% of his range, plus the added bonus that 1 or 2% of the time, he calls with the rest of his range?

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60/16/3.8

This is what I get when I decide not to be a pssy anymore.

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $16.62
BB: $414.84
Hero (UTG): $197.00
MP: $320.36
CO: $125.87
BTN: $284.73

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, MP folds, CO calls $8.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($19) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $16.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $32.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $189.00</font>, CO calls all-in for $85.87
Uncalled bet of $71.13 returned to Hero

Turn: ($254.74) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

River: ($254.74) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 2 All-In)

Pot Size: $254.74 ($3 Rake)

CO had 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a pair of Kings) and WON (+$125.87)
Hero had T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (a pair of Tens) and LOST (-$125.87)

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I guess this hand vs TAG regular makes up for it:

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $247.42
BB: $380.37
UTG: $117.61
MP: $187.00
CO: $367.16
BTN: $240.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">BTN raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $25.00</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $18.00

Flop: ($52) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $44.00</font>, BTN calls $44.00

Turn: ($140) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $125.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises all-in to $171.00</font>, Hero calls $46.00

River: ($482) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $482.00 ($3 Rake)

BTN had K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (two pairs, Eights and Fives) and LOST (-$240.00)
Hero had 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (four of a kind, Fives) and WON (+$239.00)

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has anyone in the US cashed out lately from stars for four figure amounts? how long did it take?

[Dire]

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Anyone have a Stoxpoker vid subscription? Worthwhile?

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I had one a while back (about the first 60 videos). CardRunners is a much better choice for NL. But for other games and especially limit holdem, Stoxpoker is awesome. He does have NL videos, and they're great, but they're pretty infrequent. Things may have changed by now. Not sure, I haven't been a member for months now.

[sputnik3000]

Drunk is good right?

[Dire]

Ahhh.. LAG / SLAG or whatever you want to call it session #3:



Clearly enough of a sample to tell me this style is beating $100 for about 30BB/100.