QQ - Way behind in a huge pot...

[meep_42]

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Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (17.50 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 caps</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (17.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls...

-d

[KitCloudkicker]

flop 3 bet is pretty bad. ok its awful.

[BigBadBabar]

can i vote multiple times? lol

[Niediam]

Preflop good. Flop and turn bad.

There is no reason to 3bet this because it's going to be capped and bet on the turn something like 90+% of the time. One of your opponents will often (usually?) have a set here and when either does AA/AK is often going to play aggressively anyhow.

Calling the turn is close if you knew it would only be two bets too often it's going to cost you four here...

[Maliant]

Postflop is horrid.

[James.]

the flop sucks pretty bad, but an argument can be made against every street.

[Maliant]

Turn is almost equally bad imo.

[MaxRaises]

River: T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

ONE TIME DEALER!

[meep_42]

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River: T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

ONE TIME DEALER!

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Obviously.

Well, my thought process on the flop was that I was getting an immediate 21-2 with the worst case potential being 28-4. So, if I was calling (and expecting action to continue behind me), I thought I should be 3-betting to try to slow down things (keep in mind that I cold-capped pre-flop).

Looking back I realize my implied odds were crap considering I would have to dodge a ton on the river if I caught on the turn and with 4 to the straight on board, it would be unlikely that I could recoup much of the cost to call there.

On the turn, I really expected the action to slow, paying 23-3 at the very worst to see the river (and 21-2 immediately). I couldn't really put anyone on a FD, so I considered all 4 outs good there.

I know I didn't include reads initially, but the two aggressors here are decent 30/10/1.5ish types and the button was pretty new, which led me to believe that the action wasn't getting capped on the turn.

-d